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thestonedog78 Princess Warlock from from deep space Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Princess Warlock
#271351: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:40:29 PM

Yeah.. that was just weird..

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Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#271352: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:41:31 PM

Put them out of reach. And you don't really just let your kid play around in the kitchen with the sharp objects and the stove and chemicals.

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Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#271353: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:41:51 PM

i had the strangest mental image of cloud dreaming that he was talking to that one fat guy at the beginning of ff7 but then the fat guy turned out to be a slitheen

TheSpacePhantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#271354: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:43:23 PM

jam you know that they were both twelve right

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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#271355: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:46:22 PM

That's not really a realistic option, Jam.

Everything in the kitchen could be a weapon if one was creative enough.

You think putting an object up high enough would outsmart a twelve year old? They'd just get a footstool or a ladder.

And the parents aren't always there, either. Say the kid got up really early for school, and pocketed a knife while eating breakfast while the parents are still asleep.

edited 4th Jun '14 4:48:21 PM by SR3NORMANDY

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Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#271356: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:46:55 PM

oh if only such things were so easily mended

if only things were that simple

You underestimate how intelligent "children" can be.

Child proof caps can be thwarted with trial and error.

edited 4th Jun '14 4:47:33 PM by Prometheus136

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MobileLeprechaun (: from Grayrock, TX Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#271357: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:47:36 PM

I am honestly interested to see what (if anything) comes up about these girls' home situations. I think there might be some actual serious problem hidden beneath the sensationalist drivel.

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Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#271358: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:48:49 PM

[up]Likely. But it's hard to tell.

As much as I think some of us act like, I don't think these kinds of events can be so easily chocked up to "oh well they're bonkers"

War is God.
SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#271359: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:49:24 PM

Yeah, any attempt to restrict access to anything weapon-related is a misguided attempt to stop symptoms, not a solution to the cause.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#271360: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:50:04 PM

No, but that's obviously a factor. Much more than "THIS INTERNET GARBAGE IS CORRUPTING OUR CHILDREN!" That was the point I was trying to make, anyway.

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#271361: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:50:44 PM

By put them out of reach I meant anyway you can. Locking them up or putting them in a place the kid can't find them is an option.

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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#271363: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:52:29 PM

[up][up]Well yes. One should do their best to eliminate easy access...

But that won't mend the problem.

We have to be TAUGHT morality. I believe humans (...for the most part) are hardwired to understand morality, but it must be reinforced.

Not to mention that if the kid does something like stab someone... they're probably a bit fucked in the head.

edited 4th Jun '14 4:52:54 PM by Prometheus136

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ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#271364: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:53:50 PM

Trying to keep away any and all things that could be a weapon is an exercise in futility.

People (or kids, doesn't matter) are creative. They'll use pencils if they have to.

edited 4th Jun '14 4:54:31 PM by ramuf

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Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#271365: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:56:34 PM

The actual point I'm trying to make is that I doubt the parents are actually paying much attention to their kids. Because its not that hard to figure out what they were into and keep an eye on them. They're not that good at hiding that stuff.

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Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#271366: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:57:48 PM

[up]This.

There's no harm in trying. I hate it when people say shit like "oh well it's impossible so don't even bother."

That kind of apathy is ruining the world.

[down]There's no harm in putting effort into preventing access to potential weaponry.

edited 4th Jun '14 4:59:48 PM by Prometheus136

War is God.
SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#271367: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:57:51 PM

I got cookies out of the highest shelf in one of those containers that make noise when they were opened.

At age ten.

All I needed was a step ladder and a fluffy towel to put over the speakers, while the only parent home took a shower.

If my parents had been paranoid and untrusting enough to get a lock for it, I would have found a way to swipe the key because I was creative and wanted those cookies.

[up]I never said it was pointless. I just want to say that restricting access to stuff isn't as important as teaching the kid the right way in the first place.

edited 4th Jun '14 5:01:01 PM by SR3NORMANDY

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Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#271368: Jun 4th 2014 at 5:02:44 PM

[up]Of course.

Like I said earlier, we need to be taught specific moral principles.

The most basic moral principle that... pretty much anyone will use because of its utility is reciprocity.

i.e.: you scratch my back, I scratch yours.

Goodness given will result in goodness received. It benefits everyone.

However

Things like... "you shouldn't play with sharp objects because you could hurt yourself or others" NEED to be taught.

Also norm, I wasn't referring to you so much as general people who throw around stuff like "well it's impossible to totally prevent it so why bother."

It irritates me. Sorry if I made it seem like I was targeting you specifically.

edited 4th Jun '14 5:04:22 PM by Prometheus136

War is God.
SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#271369: Jun 4th 2014 at 5:05:49 PM

Exactly. Child-proofing your electricity sockets is important, but eventually once your teach your kid how dangerous it is and how they can use it safely is your ultimate goal.

Restricting access is only treating symptoms and it won't solve the problem on its own.

[up]It's cool. We're having what I call an "agreeguement".

Two people having a discussion who appear to have diverging stances on a subject, but upon refining their arguments with one another conclude that they pretty much agree on all points.

I expect royalties whenever the word is used, naturally.

edited 4th Jun '14 5:09:58 PM by SR3NORMANDY

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#271370: Jun 4th 2014 at 5:08:40 PM

NEW TOPIC

i can't tell whether madoka or dark souls fucked me up more

Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#271371: Jun 4th 2014 at 5:09:35 PM

What I like to keep in mind is that...

common sense doesn't necessarily exist.

If someone has never seen a car before in their entire LIFE... would they react to a car speeding towards them the way I, as a metropolitan US citizen would?

Not sure. Maybe in the sense that "oh, high speed object, get out of the way"

But they may think the car is just some kind of metal demon and not a machine.

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Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#271372: Jun 4th 2014 at 5:09:40 PM

Depends on which one is more messed up Trip.

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MobileLeprechaun (: from Grayrock, TX Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#271373: Jun 4th 2014 at 5:11:11 PM

Yo, sorry for being slow. Icy and I did the ol' device swap since she's more heavily involved and junk, so I'm on her phone.

edited 4th Jun '14 5:11:43 PM by MobileLeprechaun

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GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#271374: Jun 4th 2014 at 5:11:30 PM

[up][up][up]That's still technically common sense, though, isn't it? Doesn't matter what you think it is, you still have enough brain cells to register, "If that big heavy fast-moving thing hits me it'll probably fuck me up."

edited 4th Jun '14 5:11:55 PM by GameSpazzer

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Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#271375: Jun 4th 2014 at 5:15:29 PM

well

madoka involves the death of all of my favorite characters, but at the very least the ending is, at most, bittersweet

but madoka tricks you into thinking its another shoujo

dark souls lets you know off the bat that its fucked up

and kills off everyone

and the ending is not even close to happy

either one of them


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