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Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#257576: May 2nd 2014 at 1:35:58 PM

If not trying to stop groups from forming, then what has this whole conversation been about?

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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257577: May 2nd 2014 at 1:36:42 PM

trying to stop convoluted subplots from popping up left and right and locking everyone not in the know out

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#257578: May 2nd 2014 at 1:40:22 PM

That statement is contradictory to the last few pages.

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ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
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#257580: May 2nd 2014 at 1:43:21 PM

I think it's both of them at the same time that the discussion is about.

At least, that's what it seems like.

MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257581: May 2nd 2014 at 1:44:23 PM

@wacky: but that is what you're saying though

the entire point of this discussion was how you guys are saying it's a serious problem that needs to be remedied

but this is storytelling. this is character development. you cannot immediately involve everyone in everything, and if someone comes right in the middle of a thing they now want to take part in, they have to do a bit of work to get involved.

does this mean that sometimes new unestablished characters are gonna be stuck with little coming their way? sure, and we could start keeping that in mind when we develop our characters' relationships so there's less difficulty in that. but it is ultimately the job of the player to develop their character, and make them bond with other characters, not the other players

the reason this event-heavy style started to form was because a game where a static group of people just talk casually to one another gets really boring, really fast. and now this new style has gotten to a point where there's new problems. going backwards will not solve this, and neither will making big changes to the game itself. we just need to keep new things in mind.

edited 2nd May '14 1:46:28 PM by MacDuffy

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257582: May 2nd 2014 at 1:47:35 PM

if i may point you to the fg rules

NO PLOT. If any plot bunnies should spawn, make sure they stay bunnies — i.e.: small.

so yeah

that's basically it

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#257583: May 2nd 2014 at 1:48:42 PM

Actually no. Disregard.

edited 2nd May '14 1:51:05 PM by ramuf

GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#257584: May 2nd 2014 at 1:48:53 PM

I'm not back yet, but I think I should mention that the "stuck in a basement" thing was not proposed as a solution. It was proposed as a fun thing we could try for a few hours.

If it gets the arguing to stop, I'll back off on this, because this isn't going anywhere.

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Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#257585: May 2nd 2014 at 1:50:34 PM

We do keep plot bunnies small though.

But when ever a character has something happen to them, it adds to their over all story. There is a cohesive narrative going on in the form of episodic events, and we all agreed a long time ago that, that was okay and can't be avoided.

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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257586: May 2nd 2014 at 1:54:22 PM

well

these plot bunnies might have started small

but the carrots you feed them might've been doused in growth potion because some of them have become gigantic

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#257587: May 2nd 2014 at 1:56:31 PM

Thing is, "small" isn't exact. It's not clear to me where the line is drawn between "small" and "too big."

And that's all I will say for now because I must go.

Aaand Duff has clarified this.

edited 2nd May '14 1:59:49 PM by ramuf

trip Since: Mar, 2012
#257588: May 2nd 2014 at 1:57:05 PM

Wacky.

The plot bunnies don't suddenly encompass the entire room and force everyone to a whole new area. Thus they are still bunnies.

They keep in the room, last for only a few hours, and MAY resurface every once and a while.

But we can't get rid of them.

MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257589: May 2nd 2014 at 1:58:41 PM

@wacky: nothing that's been going on apart from the recent thing with the Absolutist can be described as more than "small"

"not small" would be sending characters into outer space to partake in a furry fighting tournament

something that drastically changes the setting for all involved

@ramuf: i'm saying that that's really a self-inflicted problem

it is a natural byproduct of a roleplaying game in a static setting based entirely around building relationships

edited 2nd May '14 1:59:45 PM by MacDuffy

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257590: May 2nd 2014 at 1:59:54 PM

well

no matter what whenever i try to post in the fg i still feel confused and left out, so in that matter yes, i do think most of the plot bunnies are too big

the fg used to be about interaction, but it really isn't anymore

edited 2nd May '14 2:00:23 PM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
trip Since: Mar, 2012
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257593: May 2nd 2014 at 2:02:31 PM

no, it still is

it just involves more than talking now

why not just

ask for a summary of what's going on at the moment

or have your character investigate in-game

edited 2nd May '14 2:04:07 PM by MacDuffy

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257594: May 2nd 2014 at 2:05:24 PM

because that's too much of a hassle and can be confusing on itself

i just wanna see a Ragtag Bunch of Misfits interacting with each other and have fun

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
trip Since: Mar, 2012
#257595: May 2nd 2014 at 2:06:48 PM

too much of a hassle

... what

MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257596: May 2nd 2014 at 2:08:03 PM

sounds to me like ur just lazy

actually you know what I realized the FG is

it's a visual novel

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#257598: May 2nd 2014 at 2:09:21 PM

it's a light novel you dork

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257600: May 2nd 2014 at 2:09:49 PM

it's true

static setting

colorful cast of characters primarily Japanese-inspired

objective is to build relationships with all the characters

i've discovered the truth

edited 2nd May '14 2:10:14 PM by MacDuffy


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