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MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257551: May 2nd 2014 at 12:46:31 PM

@Wacky not asking questions, or speaking to guts directly

just saw it, walked up, sat down, did nothing else

@Spaz:I've always told you I didn't have any problems at the moment, because at the moment, there weren't any problems.

When I did have problems, I would talk to you about it, and you always, always seemed to take serious personal offense to it, get legitimately really upset, blamed every other possible thing, and left everyone involved I assume generally feeling terrible.

Of course, I still do it. Don't think I have any secret problems with you I don't tell you about, because there aren't any.

edited 2nd May '14 12:48:16 PM by MacDuffy

Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#257552: May 2nd 2014 at 12:48:06 PM

What Duff said essentially.

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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257553: May 2nd 2014 at 12:48:13 PM

well, she talked to him at first, but then fen and guts just starting talking to each other and lef her in the dust

but i'm gonna back outta this conversation cause it's getting a tad too heated

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#257556: May 2nd 2014 at 12:54:19 PM

Earliest Shubby post I found of the day.

Seriously, though, guys, I hate to see this happen. Maybe we should take a sabbatical or something?

edited 2nd May '14 1:04:36 PM by megarockman

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257557: May 2nd 2014 at 1:03:35 PM

thanks, mega!

so yeah, after reading through, basically exactly how that went down

MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257559: May 2nd 2014 at 1:08:04 PM

it's the first one of Shubby in the context of the scene we've been discussing

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257560: May 2nd 2014 at 1:09:37 PM

no

the scene we've been discussing starts back in the forest

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#257561: May 2nd 2014 at 1:10:26 PM

The only other scene I remember is two days before when Shubby throws a fit in the living room.

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257563: May 2nd 2014 at 1:11:44 PM

now he has edited the post

that is where it actually starts

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#257564: May 2nd 2014 at 1:12:11 PM

Yeah, I did. Apologies for the confusion.

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
Imca (Veteran)
#257565: May 2nd 2014 at 1:13:19 PM

-Decides to play-

-Looks around-

Oh.....

Ummmm....

May I atleast ask what the discussion is before I decide my course of action....

ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#257566: May 2nd 2014 at 1:17:14 PM

I was going to say something when I got back, but I'm not sure it's wise anymore.

MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257567: May 2nd 2014 at 1:21:05 PM

and reading through it, it is exactly how i described it

i understand if you felt like you didn't know what to do with shubby because we were doing a thing that was established earlier without her involvement, but that doesn't mean you were incapable of having Shubby, and by extension you, if you also didn't quite know what was happening, brought up to speed.

i think the problem isn't that groups are being exclusionary, it's that people don't try to get into the groups because they feel insecure about possibly throwing a wrench into whatever it is they were doing, which isn't really the fault or intention of the groups

how many times has the word "groups" been used in this discussion

@ramuf: Don't say that. That contributes to a growing problem here. Speak your mind.

@Imca: just debating how the fg is now and what we feel needs to change

edited 2nd May '14 1:23:06 PM by MacDuffy

Imca (Veteran)
#257568: May 2nd 2014 at 1:23:15 PM

Okay, I have had the situation described to me in PM, and yes.

I have to agree with the locked out camp, and Jam, your such a major player here you just never notice....

But the locked out thing is actualy the whole reason I hardly ever play.....

On a good day I can expect to talk to 1-3 people no matter how hard I try to get involved...

Thats all I really feel like saying since I am not here enough for my oppinion to mater.

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257569: May 2nd 2014 at 1:24:32 PM

i understand if you felt like you didn't know what to do with shubby because we were doing a thing that was established earlier without her involvement

this, this is exactly the problem

if you keep doing this thing where you form little groups and start doing elaborate subplots with losts of complicated details, people are gonna end up locked out

this happens a lot

edited 2nd May '14 1:26:13 PM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257570: May 2nd 2014 at 1:30:48 PM

did you read the rest of my post

ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#257571: May 2nd 2014 at 1:30:58 PM

Alright then. Here goes.

I agree with some stuff that pretty much everyone has said. The cliques can be very hard to deal with when you start out. When I got back here in March, I struggled with getting Julie involved with anything.

The cliques can be dealt with patience and effort, which I think Duff said. It sucks, but you can do it. I don't think most people want to do that, though, so that's out.

I don't like it, though. It feels exclusionary, and I know I've started to do that with Julie. Maybe I could work back to being casual after her plotlet is over with. I'd like to try, at least.

Thing is, I don't think the solution is to force everyone to stay in the room for a period of time. That would get old fast, as has been said. However, I think that would be a fun thing to try. It's a little plotlet for everybody, not a solution to a problem.

I'd say that the only real way to work with the cliques is just to have an OOC agreement to try and resist having that happen. Obviously, that's optimistic, but it's worth a try.

edited 2nd May '14 1:31:25 PM by ramuf

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257572: May 2nd 2014 at 1:31:12 PM

[up][up]yes

that is still the problem

edited 2nd May '14 1:31:32 PM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#257573: May 2nd 2014 at 1:32:07 PM

I have said all I possibly can on this.

So I'll repeat what I said earlier.

You literally cannot stop groups from forming. Its a natural consequence of interaction. Your only choice is to adapt to it.

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megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#257574: May 2nd 2014 at 1:32:20 PM

Duff, I think the problem is that with a plot already 2 hours in motion just knowing what's happened doesn't mean it can bring others in.

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257575: May 2nd 2014 at 1:32:49 PM

[up][up]but we're not trying to do that

i thought i already said that

[up]also this

edited 2nd May '14 1:33:16 PM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."

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