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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257526: May 2nd 2014 at 12:09:53 PM

tl;dr version: the point is not that there are groups, the point is that these groups are so closed off that it's impossible to get other characters in no matter how hard you try

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#257527: May 2nd 2014 at 12:10:09 PM

i dunno, but it feels that way when i do it

[up]yes this

edited 2nd May '14 12:10:20 PM by thespacephantom

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thestonedog78 Princess Warlock from from deep space Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Princess Warlock
#257528: May 2nd 2014 at 12:11:40 PM

[up][up]that totally.

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MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257529: May 2nd 2014 at 12:14:58 PM

i don't think it would be awkward

@wacky: how many times did you have Shubby interact with people when you came back

GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#257530: May 2nd 2014 at 12:15:06 PM

Basically.

@Duffy: It is, though.

edited 2nd May '14 12:15:44 PM by GameSpazzer

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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257531: May 2nd 2014 at 12:15:59 PM

[up][up]constantly

the main reasons i always give shubby those crazy eldritch entrances is so i can call attention to her

edited 2nd May '14 12:16:24 PM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#257532: May 2nd 2014 at 12:18:22 PM

[up]I've tried this tactic at times, too, and it's not just us. But nobody cares because they're off doing things. So you go back to finding a group that will maybe let you stand on the sidelines if you're lucky.

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MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257533: May 2nd 2014 at 12:18:29 PM

i don't want "constantly" i want actual numbers

let's find the page where she comes back

edited 2nd May '14 12:22:51 PM by MacDuffy

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#257534: May 2nd 2014 at 12:19:46 PM

That's is very much just your own insecurity talking. I'm sorry but it is. The little groups that form are not exclusive. You can get in by talking to, and spending time with characters involved in that group.

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thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#257535: May 2nd 2014 at 12:21:36 PM

even when it is characters who ren is bffsies with, it still feels like it would be awkwardly shoehorning

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#257536: May 2nd 2014 at 12:22:05 PM

Thoughts: Serious discussions keep deciding to happen when I have school shit due.

Keep it civil.

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thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#257537: May 2nd 2014 at 12:23:07 PM

i have to go soon, anyways

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MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257538: May 2nd 2014 at 12:23:39 PM

@shoehorning: no

no it isn't

you think it's awkward shoehorning, but it's not

if i feel awkwardly shoehorned by your actions, i will tell you

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257539: May 2nd 2014 at 12:23:59 PM

i cannot point you to a particular page where shubby makes an entrance

i can however point you to a part where shubby is very much present and yet completely ignored

you and jam should remember, i was with you

it was that time with guts and fen in the forest, when trees start to attack people

and then guts tells a story

and then some weird shit happens with glados

all that time shubby is there but she is just sort of tagging along and being horribly sidelined

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#257540: May 2nd 2014 at 12:24:00 PM

Since we're airing out laundry, I might as well say this.

As mentioned before, I think maybe Duffy and Jam could stand to stop doing exclusive events. But this is hardly a recent issue. It has only taken this long to get brought up at all because of how difficult it is to discuss things with you guys. Duffy because it doesn't seem like you take concerns seriously very often, as emphasised by the sarcastic jabs at people via gifs and videos and images and stuff. And Jam because you generally tend to not admit fault, and you seem to become highly defensive when the issue is pressed even a little. As such, we usually don't mention things that we think one or both of you will have a problem with, because we don't feel like it will lead to a constructive discussion.

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MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257541: May 2nd 2014 at 12:30:47 PM

@spaz: I feel the exact same way about you.

@shubby:if I recall, Shubby did absolutely nothing of significance in that scene aside from saying "ooh" and "how interesting"

she didn't try to interact with guts, or engage in conversation with him

being physically present does not necessarily mean guts will spontaneously want to start a friendship with her

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257542: May 2nd 2014 at 12:32:09 PM

but the only reason she did those sort of things is because nobody cared to acknowledge her presence in the first place

it took until mega arrived with homura (iirc) to get an actual conversation started

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257543: May 2nd 2014 at 12:34:21 PM

see there's the problem

you can't wait for people to come to you

i'm not going to spontaneously stop whatever interaction i'm focusing on because another character who might look a little funny just happens to be present nearby doing nothing of note

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257544: May 2nd 2014 at 12:35:24 PM

but i wasn't waiting for everyone to come to me

i was there with you

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
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Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#257545: May 2nd 2014 at 12:36:29 PM

@Pancake:I remember. And Shubby got some interaction with Fen until you backed off.

@Spaz:What Duff said. I can't talk to you about things without you freaking out and starting to rant at me about your problem while trying to debunk any solution I come up with soo...I think that's a moot point.

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MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#257546: May 2nd 2014 at 12:36:41 PM

not asking questions, or directly speaking to guts

just sitting there, eating popcorn, watching guts talk to people who had been asking him questions and talking to him directly

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#257547: May 2nd 2014 at 12:38:26 PM

now that i remember, i in fact came to you

i saw that there was shit going on in the forest so i just said that shubby happened to be taking a stroll through the forest and saw the characters

but she ended up ignored anyway

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#257548: May 2nd 2014 at 12:38:31 PM

You know how I've been periodically sending you PMs asking if you were sure you weren't mad at me, or if there was anything I could be doing to annoy you less? It would have been nice if you had mentioned it when I kept asking you over and over again and insisted you just tell the truth so this shit didn't happen.

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Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#257549: May 2nd 2014 at 12:40:00 PM

Spaz. This thread isn't about you or me.

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GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#257550: May 2nd 2014 at 12:43:07 PM

That is not what I said. I'm saying I have asked for feedback about the issue you're complaining about now, and you gave me a false response instead of providing it.

Honestly, though, I give up. It has gotten to the point where I am afraid to talk to you as a friend, because I'm worried you'll snap at me. I'm not pulling rank on this because I know that will make you snap at me, but it's clear this isn't getting resolved right now. I have to walk home now anyway.

MY SOUL IS DARK BUT MY HAIR IS COLORFUL — Brahian Pokémon Alchemist

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