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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#332351: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:42:28 PM

Spaz might have gotten mixed up, but she does has a point.

I can recall plenty of times where you've consciously sat out of something like a fight, and while that's fine, the best times I've had on this fg is when I've decided to go along with something to see where it goes.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#332352: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:43:34 PM

I consciously sit out of things because I don't like being involved in gigantic sprawls where I have negligible impact beyond being window dressing.

MobileLeprechaun (: from Grayrock, TX Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
(:
#332353: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:50:12 PM

All I can do at this point is give my absolute assurance that I will never, ever have a problem with you starting stuff with me. You've been very gracious about me starting things with you, and I want to return the favor. I think many here would be glad to do the same.

I just don't like to see your enjoyment of the game hindered. I want you to be able to participate on the level that everyone else does. You're a wonderful player, and several people have expressed their fondness for your writing.

make it through this year if it kills you yet | 2001-2019
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#332354: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:51:25 PM

Actually guys don't disregard Spaz's post at all, it brings up something very important, because things eventually gravitated to our OOC relationships, which means that people were taking things to a personal level. We need to move away from that kind of thing, so that emotions don't get raised.

As for the rest of the post yes, this is part of the reason I don't feel too comfortable doing things with Ram's characters. Lately, they just seem to refuse to get involved in anything or be affected by anything outside of what Ram writes himself. One of the key aspects of roleplaying is "Agency", its the ability to affect the scenario in a way only you can, and a roleplay is only really satisfying if the writers give each other agency. Without knowing it we're applying this principle all the time. However, Ram's characters at the same time refuse to give any one agency nor have any of their own.

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foxmccloud4387 Since: Mar, 2011
#332355: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:52:04 PM

Is it alright if I drop in my two cents?

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#332356: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:52:42 PM

Okay. I'm not sure what to say that hasn't been said, Ram.

I really don't agree that you are being consciously ignored by anyone, nor do I think that anyone here dislikes you.

Everyone should always be willing to accomodate your initiations, but you have to make them and keep making them when they fall flat.

Everyone gets ignored or passed up in this fg at times, it's a chaotic rp format. But the best way to tackle it is to stay active and not be afraid to step forward.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#332357: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:53:28 PM

I don't want to have another spat with you, Jam.

It's not at all encouraging to be insulted.

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#332359: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:54:50 PM

Please understand, Jam wasn't throwing an insult. He was giving criticism. Differences.

[nja]

ECH

edited 23rd Oct '14 7:55:10 PM by LatverianBadger

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#332360: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:54:57 PM

He is giving his opinion which involves some criticism.

He is not insulting you.

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
MobileLeprechaun (: from Grayrock, TX Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
(:
#332361: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:55:01 PM

Guys, please.

make it through this year if it kills you yet | 2001-2019
ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#332362: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:55:10 PM

He worded it in no uncertain terms.

thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#332363: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:55:46 PM

@jam: did you see what ram said about why he's hesitant to initiate things

because that might explain the problem you're having

UN JOUR JE SERAI DE RETOUR PRÈS DE TOI
MobileLeprechaun (: from Grayrock, TX Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
(:
#332364: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:58:44 PM

I'm about to ask for another moratorium. Not like I can enforce it, but it's taking a bad turn again.

make it through this year if it kills you yet | 2001-2019
SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#332365: Oct 23rd 2014 at 7:59:49 PM

You heard mobile. Everyone settle and try and look at this situation without letting it get personal.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#332366: Oct 23rd 2014 at 8:03:19 PM

look tempers are kind of flaring (mine included), it's getting late

is it okay if we try this again tomorrow when everyone's in a better mood?

UN JOUR JE SERAI DE RETOUR PRÈS DE TOI
trip Since: Mar, 2012
#332367: Oct 23rd 2014 at 8:04:52 PM

i don't know how i feel about waiting on it for the whole night (because sometimes my temper just festers over time rather then cools off) but i'm fine with waiting for a good while

ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#332368: Oct 23rd 2014 at 8:05:19 PM

I'd rather do this in private from now on.

Doing it publicly only leads to everyone getting angry.

And apart from that, I'm done for today.

WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#332369: Oct 23rd 2014 at 8:07:27 PM

urgh i'm back

But honestly yeah this might go better if we did this tomorrow. I've been feeling nauseous all day and some of you guys are probably tired too.

LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#332370: Oct 23rd 2014 at 8:07:45 PM

We really need to settle a date and place where the issue can be discussed rationally. Letting tempers cool is fine and dandy, but it's be best to nip the issue in the bud ASAP.

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#332371: Oct 23rd 2014 at 8:17:48 PM

Yeah, putting this off isn't going to help much, as this is sort of becoming an ingrained thing.

People's tempers getting high is only a symptom. People are frustrated because no matter what this issue continues to persist.

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trip Since: Mar, 2012
#332372: Oct 23rd 2014 at 8:18:14 PM

i dont think i could participate, since i have a rather hard time being rational in those situations

eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#332373: Oct 23rd 2014 at 8:20:44 PM

oh i see how it is

the second i come back to the roll20 intiation chatzy and everyone left

eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#332375: Oct 23rd 2014 at 8:25:09 PM

we were brainwashing an innocent person into roll20 it's nothing important


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