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Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#325851: Oct 7th 2014 at 11:55:38 AM

There's a pretty good reason why gamers are commonly looked down upon as a sub-culture

well

there are several good reasons

and if I was an outside observer, this kind of shit would just make me more cynical

"What the hell is up these people's asses? Don't they have anything better to do than be malicious twats about their consumed media?"

But at the same time, I think that consumers of media have a right to assert their ability to have quality products and honest service

It's like... on one hand I think they're right but on the other I don't

edited 7th Oct '14 11:56:53 AM by Prometheus136

War is God.
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#325852: Oct 7th 2014 at 11:55:48 AM

my favorite game journalism is nintendo power

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Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#325853: Oct 7th 2014 at 11:57:39 AM

Oh it got banned from the site? When did that happen?

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Imca (Veteran)
#325854: Oct 7th 2014 at 11:58:06 AM

Duff, he even admitted it was BS, to an outside observer it does nothing more now then make gamers seem like self entitled sexist pricks.... which they are.

Edit : Although the topic is baned? Why dont they make a sticky of banned topics already. :/

edited 7th Oct '14 11:58:17 AM by Imca

Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#325855: Oct 7th 2014 at 11:58:53 AM

I always do research on things before I buy them

It's always a good idea to get multiple sources and get contrasting views

This also prevents um

hype-backlash

Like sorry people, it's kind of sort of your fault for pre-ordering a game that you had no clue was going to be good or not and then getting burnt. There's literally no reason not to wait other than impatience or bullshit pre-order bonuses... which are only there because so many of us keep pre-ordering games. STOP PRE-ORDERING GAMES.

War is God.
Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#325856: Oct 7th 2014 at 11:59:09 AM

They do, it's in the VG Rules.

MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#325857: Oct 7th 2014 at 11:59:13 AM

again, incorrect

again, who knows

Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#325858: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:00:06 PM

It's hard to tell about this whole "Gamergate" thing

I only recently learned about it

It seems extremely convoluted

War is God.
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#325859: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:00:53 PM

it totally is

if we get into it now we will be here all day so let's not

Imca (Veteran)
#325860: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:01:15 PM

@ Prom : I worked in that industry, if you don't pre-order, we don't get games.

Its one reason mom and pop stores don't have new games, so while that sounds like good advice, your just screwing every one by following it.

1 shelf copy for every 2 pre-orders, unless its Nintnendo then you dont get a shelf coppy unless you have 8 preorders.

edited 7th Oct '14 12:02:00 PM by Imca

Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#325861: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:02:35 PM

The market is controlled by producer and consumer. The producer only puts out what's in demand with supply in check.

I don't pre-order games simply because it's an unnecessary risk that gives me no benefit otherwise. Fuck pre-order bonuses, it's just a way for some of these companies to shit out mediocre titles and give more incentive for eager people to buy them before they know better.

War is God.
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#325862: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:04:55 PM

i find it hard to hate game journalism because i have fond childhood memories of reading the spanish version of nintendo power (which i believe is still going, suck it americans)

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#325863: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:05:14 PM

@wacky: dude

duuuuuuuuude

luckyyy

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Boxen whatever he can Since: Jan, 2013
whatever he can
#325864: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:05:27 PM

wacky i hate you

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MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#325865: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:06:00 PM

maybe spanish game journalism is better

probably not but WHAT IF

Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#325866: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:06:38 PM

It's a fairly cutthroat business from what I've read, as a lot of journalism can be.

I love games, but GOD... sometimes it's just better to

not put out death threats and shit

Why is it that so many of us seem to think that

"hmm... how can I persuade him or her to accept my worldview... OH! I KNOW! I'LL SAY THAT I'LL BURN THEIR CHILDREN AND EAT THEIR HOUSE AND RAPE THEIR DOG!"

War is God.
Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#325867: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:07:41 PM

how does one eat a house

also game informer isn't too bad

they damn well know how to troll at least

Imca (Veteran)
#325868: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:08:02 PM

I would argue that it is only really a risk if the developer or IP is new, because beyond that you can make a reasonable assumption at what your going to get.

EX : Civs has had consistent quality and gameplay among all tittles.

MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#325869: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:08:22 PM

what does that have to do with journalism specifically

people with any level of fame get anonymous death threats all the time

Imca (Veteran)
Boxen whatever he can Since: Jan, 2013
whatever he can
#325871: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:09:40 PM

AHAHAHAHAH GAMEINFORMER

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Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#325872: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:09:50 PM

Well

Aliens: Colonial Marines

is a pretty good exception

But yeah, anecdotes aside, even if there's a good chance that the product is good, YOU WON'T KNOW UNTIL IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE SHELVES AND HAS BEEN EVALUATED BY THE PRESS.

It's a gamble, and it's an unnecessary gamble designed to line the pockets of people who don't really give a shit.

Well, this is true, but it's unsettling to know that one can receive a death threat for something as insipid as a slightly below-average review score.

edited 7th Oct '14 12:10:49 PM by Prometheus136

War is God.
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#325873: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:10:07 PM

@imca: or maybe they don't publicize them because they're all meaningless

[up] oh no, this stranger on the internet who knows nothing about me said he was going to hurt me

oooooh nooooooo

edited 7th Oct '14 12:12:14 PM by MacDuffy

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#325874: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:11:47 PM

yup i've checked and the spanish nintendo power is still going

though apparently the uk version is shutting down soon

i fear for its safety

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#325875: Oct 7th 2014 at 12:12:23 PM

I haven't owned a Nintendo console since

N64

I want a Wii because of the exclusives but I despise motion controls

@Duff I wouldn't really care either, I'd probably find it amusing, but what possesses some people to threaten someone's life for something that stupid

edited 7th Oct '14 12:13:04 PM by Prometheus136

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