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#4101: Apr 28th 2021 at 9:57:48 AM

"Lets Kill Ellie at the beginning of the game, and have it be the dead rabbit she shot with a crossbow's child taking vengeance."

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#4102: Apr 28th 2021 at 10:09:03 AM

Last of Us: Part 3: Ellie still has loved ones? NOT ANYMORE!

You jest, but last I checked, Part II ended with that heavy implication already.

Seriously, I see no reason why Abby's campaign couldn't have been its own thing separated from Ellie's.

Or...one really cool thing the NieR games have done is that after the initial playthrough, when you play the game again, you see and learn things you didn't know about on your first go while also giving you the slow realization that you might not exactly be as much of a good guy as you thought you were.

Naughty Dog could've taken a similar approach where after playing Ellie's campaign, the New Game+ shows you glimpses of the other side of the situation like in the original NieR and Automata or have you play as a sidekick that could've tagged along with Ellie only for the second playthrough to open up a whole new chapter a la Automata

With that in mind, I would have to suspect that Naughty Dog was trying to streamline that whole process by not bothering with those extra playthroughs and tried to just cram it all in the first shot, but that just makes the experience cluttered, doesn't it?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 28th 2021 at 4:13:39 AM

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#4103: Apr 28th 2021 at 10:13:28 AM

Alright so Naughtydog may not do anything new or different, just keep on milking the same cow.

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#4104: Apr 28th 2021 at 10:19:51 AM

Maybe Marlene was actually right that Ellie would've been better off with her brain scooped out, which are words I never thought I'd use in that order in my life.

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#4105: Apr 28th 2021 at 3:42:47 PM

That article is misleading as is the description itself. To quote from the article:

I don’t know how much I want to reveal... [co-writer Halley Gross] and I did write an outline for a story, that we're not making – but I hope one day can see the light of day – that explores a little bit what happens after this game. We’ll see.

Emphasis mine. He straight up says that while he hopes the plot can be used one day that they're not making a third game. Hell even when he actually does talk about a third game he says these things:

We’ve now had two games that I feel speak to something universal as well as telling a very personal story for these characters. With one game, there’s no pattern of what a franchise is. With two games, now there’s starting to be a pattern – now I feel like there are some structural and thematic themes you'd have to stick to if you're making a third game.
After we finish one of our big titles we take a long time to explore different ideas, whether it’s going to be Last of Us III, whether it's something new, whether there's some old franchise we want to go back to. I like to fully explore all of those, then look at, like: okay, we have all of these ideas in front of us. As a studio, what do we want to commit to? Because it’s a huge commitment – monetary, time, passion, talent, so you think about all the opportunity costs that come with that.

Nowhere does it say that a third game's plot is already written nor does it even promise a third game at all. We're told that they outlined a story set after Part II that Niel would like to show off eventually (But even that's stated to "explore[s] a little bit what happens after [this game]." Which doesn't even sound like they've plotted out a whole game at all.) and that they're playing around with different ideas and that they may do a Part III in the future if they feel like it's worth committing to.

That article and it's description are both misleading. Part III has not been confirmed and there is no completely written plot for it.

Edited by Chariot on Apr 28th 2021 at 6:43:56 AM

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#4106: Apr 28th 2021 at 4:13:53 PM

[up] ...Rats. sad

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 28th 2021 at 4:14:00 AM

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#4108: Apr 28th 2021 at 5:44:36 PM

Well...O.K. That turned out to be not very substantial. I guess we'll have to wait and see if one does come out later.

Maybe Marlene was actually right that Ellie would've been better off with her brain scooped out, which are words I never thought I'd use in that order in my life.

...Ew.

Edited by fredhot16 on Apr 28th 2021 at 5:47:22 AM

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#4109: Apr 28th 2021 at 5:52:00 PM

I know y'all are stress-memeing right now but, honestly, if Last of Us 3 was all some epic adventure that ended happily, would you even want it?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#4110: Apr 28th 2021 at 5:57:12 PM

Well granted I would want them to work on something new and fun like when they made Crash Bandicoot and Jak & Daxter.

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#4111: Apr 28th 2021 at 7:43:50 PM

All I want for the third game is for something not terrible to happen to the protagonist, whoever they happen to be.

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#4112: Apr 28th 2021 at 8:22:19 PM

Part III should be criticism against crunch culture in gaming /s

Hmmm but honestly i wouldnt mind a Part III focusing on an entirely unrelated character instead of Ellie or Abby.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#4113: Apr 28th 2021 at 11:03:39 PM

Its not that depressing an ending.

Ellie got 90% of Joel's killers.

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#4114: Apr 29th 2021 at 5:11:20 AM

Yeah... at the cost of her friends, two homes, her girlfriend and her son, and her fingers.

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Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#4115: Apr 30th 2021 at 8:50:24 PM

In all honesty, the death that bugged me the most was Jesse. Because it just didn't have a point to it, and we don't get much of a emotional reaction to it. Has Ellie become even more enraged and grief stricken, because now Abby has taken away two loved ones from her? Nope its still just Joel that she's upset about. All the other deaths in the game seem to have some impact and trauma, but his is just.... a thing that happens

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#4116: May 1st 2021 at 1:15:31 AM

Yeah... at the cost of her friends, two homes, her girlfriend and her son, and her fingers.

Worth it.

:)

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#4117: May 1st 2021 at 4:29:53 AM

Gotta get that revenge.

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#4119: May 1st 2021 at 8:57:04 PM

Kinda like how at the end of Watch_Dogs Aiden says that people always say revenge feels hollow, but for him he felt friggin' great..

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#4120: May 1st 2021 at 9:04:08 PM

Hey to quote Castlevania, “Bastards need killing”.

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#4121: May 1st 2021 at 11:26:24 PM

[up][up]Which it kinda show Aiden isnt good person.

Maybe Ellie should end like that like a sort of villian protagonist, I mean, Joel was kinda verging into that and anti hero, why not Ellie?.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#4122: May 1st 2021 at 11:31:02 PM

I would hope the next game is her as a wandering gun slinger.

We're halfway into a Wild West apocalypse now.

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#4123: May 2nd 2021 at 5:45:09 AM

I genuinely wonder if Abby could have taken Joel down in a fair fight.

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#4124: May 2nd 2021 at 7:48:16 AM

He’s an older man while Abby’s built like a brick house. So yeah, I’m thinking she’d best him in a hand-to-hand fight.

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#4125: May 2nd 2021 at 9:38:39 AM

Joel would have been a fun boss fight but golf cutscene was more dramatic i guess

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