Pretty Cure general thread

Can't wait to see the review.

21. I forgot, is Emiru or Hana the main character? Hopefully it's the former, cause she's still amazing. Somehow her safety shtick hasn't gotten old yet. And her paranoia is kind of justified right now. With the bad guys it was hinted at before, but now it's basically confirmed that computer guy is pulling the strings. I see several directions for whoever the real villain is. Interesting senpai theme this episode. Emiru is trying to live up her hers while Gelos is mocking hers for Pupple's failures. Plus more human robot trying to figure out how to call out Emiru for acting dumb. Wait, why did the guitar stay broken? This stuff is supposed to fix itself. I call hax. Anyway, another heartwarming Emiru/Lulu episode, but we've gotten a bunch of them back to back, so I'd like something else soon...

What the hell! Hugtan was supposed to will the Melody Swords into existence because baby BS, not call them of all people. I know they're heavily featured in the next movie, but I absolutely did not see those two coming right here. That's certainly a cliffhanger that's going to be remembered.

Trailer for the 15th anniversary movie.

I love the CGI character models.

I saw the trailer, and it answered my question about whether or most of the Cures looking like chibis is going to be a plot point or not. It sounds like the main enemy steals memories, so with their memories stolen, they've reverted to being little children.

Edited by Rainbow on Jun 27th 2018 at 10:10:43 AM

22. I did not know I wanted a catchphrase face-off, but now I want one. So Black and White came from a universe where All Stars is a thing? Keep Lulu away from Honoka. She's going to dismantle the android for science. Odd to bring Nagisa and Honoka in for friend advice and a cool fight scene, but it works and helps advance the main plot. Pupple gets her pitiable non-end. Ma Cherie and Amour's guitar cocking sounds like an assault rifle. Be aware of instruments. Nice mid-season all around. And spoilers for the movie ed I guess.

Just looked up the Crane of Gradititude story Geros mentions.

http://anomalyinfo.com/Stories/gratitude-crane-japanese-legend ....man, thats a pretty dark take on said tale, then.

It was mentioned on Smile Precure too. But this time it actually tied thematically.

But man, George is reminded more and more of an older Akio ohtori with his laying around with every episode he appears in.

The blatant suicide imargey was pretty damn dark, but the cheating allegory legit surprised me. I don't think precure has ever done something that mature before, not even in heartcatch.

Hell, Papple reminded me of a an adult Sayaka, right down to her breakdown in her mental world looking similar. Unlike Sayaka, Papple was given a chance to die/purify happy, thankfully.

Hopefully they don't use the same trick with Geros, because doing the same thing twice would make it hard to really believe.

Precure isn't exactly stranger to villains trying to commit suicide (look at Lulu, and wow that makes this franchise sound darker than it is), but that imagery was a lot more blatant than usual. Pupple in general has gotten a lot of interesting themes and imagery around her even though her actual villainy had been middling at best.

@Demongodofchaos 2

Well, Go Princess Precure had really a lot of parallels with Utena in my opinion. However, I think in contrast to how this show seemed to be taking inspiration from that one in it's more adult themes. Go Princess Precure acts as a reconstruction of all the themes Utena deconstructed.I think this is why both seasons seem to be more mature in themes than many other series.

Although I swear if Utena's original Japanese voice actress was still alive, I could imagine her playing a Precure part.

The more 'adult' allusions in the villains this time around is basically the logical conclusion of the season's theme, though I still didn't expect them to actually go this far. I mean the entire thing about the villains' motif is that they have 'no future'. I heard and read a lot of stories making allegory about the effect of Bubble Economy and the ensuing Lost Generation, especially when the character is female.

Which then goes to the next question; who the hell is George? I have a feeling that he's actually the 'real' president Kurai, as in Kurai is his last name and he's a president only because he's son of previous CEO who inherited the company but he didn't want to for one reason or another. There's a lot of stories like that. Which is why the secretary seems like he's controlling Kurai's speeches; when the CEO of a company that's all about taking over the future suddenly says "I don't want to take over the future", it's a PR disaster.

I entertained the possibility that Listol is actually The Starscream, but unlike the other treacherous secretary archetype like Kawarino, Listol is too professional and stoic to be ambitious. On the other hand, Daigan seems like the one of that sort of person.

I would love to see the cast of Huggto and Go Princess team up together to fight Akio, because he is the perversion of everything they stand for in their seasons.

So, I've been lurking here for awhile! Now I want to post something here.

Been a fan of pretty cure since the beginning and I want to share my thoughts on the latest season. I'm really glad Huggto! has been doing good so far. And to be honest I really fell out of the pretty cure scene after Go! Princess (a mistake I sorely regret). If Huggto keeps it up it'll be one of my favorite seasons of Pretty Cure. Not number one, but maybe 3 or 4.

I have to say the characters are all great. I love Ruru and Emiru and I'm so glad they became cures (especially Emiru being one of the younger ones not including fairies) I was so afraid Emiru would be an annoying girl who wants to be a pretty cure, but obviously won't because she's a kid. However, Huggto! not only makes her well-rounded but actually, allows her to be a cure!

Ruru's arc is also pretty amazing so far as well! She's not beating Eas or Towa in terms of redemption arcs in my opinion, but she's up there! Seeing her gain more emotion as she develops with Emiru is pretty sweet. I can't help but smile when seeing them on screen.

As for the main team, so far I really love them! The only issue I really can say I have is that I wish Saaya got more development (which I hope comes sooner or later) Having a pink cure be out of the center of attention is such a great fresh breathe of air. So I don't mind having the new cures get attention, but I'd like to return to the main team soon.

Also, a bit petty as a complaint, but we got robbed of the sword. Come on! Even other magical girl series get swords. We even had them in the series before. I get Hana not wanting to kill, but they could've done something else, surely?

Other than that, can't wait for the next episode!

Edited by Ducolamia on Jul 4th 2018 at 1:51:04 PM

I'm actually with power up whatever its shape, but when it comes to theme, then a sword is just not the right way to prove the point of being this season's Precure. That blonde guy whose name I just can never spell right showed us that. One of my problem with Yes 5's bad guys (beside Bumbee) is that Dream and friends are so bloodthirsty that none of the villains get a chance for redemption even though they're perfectly viable for the not-so-evil of standpoint. Scorp is the most notable case of this, but others like Gamao and Bloody are not that bad. Despite that, I also think that Despariah sucks as a villain because her redemption just isn't really earned.

Too much mercy is not good, but at least Nanoha leaves some pieces alive to be befriended.

The Yes 5 Cures' redemption philosophy seems to be that if you show regret and wish to turn over a new leaf, they'll be perfectly happy to support you. But they won't go out of their way to save your evil hide unless Nozomi thinks you're cute.

I love that someone has FINALLY realized that YPC 5! Is the ONE show where villains die. By the Cure's hands no less!

Also other than Dark Dream, Nozomi doesnt think anyone is too cute to die. There is no mercy. No Escape. Taste the rainbow you mofo!

They don't even bother to remember their names, unlike other Cures; it's usually just "Nightmare!" or "Eternal!" with Bumbee with the only exception.

@Ala Alba Decent point, but I'd be lying if I didn't like the fact that the Cures could be brutal sometimes. It was honestly one of my favorite parts of the Yes! team. Though I will admit the villains were meh.

As for the sword, I can completely understand why they did it, but there's still a part of me that wishes they could utilize their potential more. But oh well, if it happens later it happens.

As for the future of the the Hugtto team, I'm really surprised no one has talked about how suspicious af Harry is. I know the anime has shrugged it off for a while, but I find it very odd that he mentioned that Criasu doesn't like traitors and that even with all the Mirai crystals at this point they can't do "something".

My personal theory is that Harry was an agent of Criasu and after meeting Hugtan or her mother (whatever makes the most sense) he realized the error of his ways. Long story short, Hugtan/ Hug's Mother was a pretty cure with other cures as well (we see other cures in the flashback scene). Hugtan/Mother was caught in a bad fight with little chance of winning. She sent herself, the other cures, and Harry into the past. The cures were reincarnated as the main trio and are immune to the effects of the time freeze which is why they were aware when the event occurred.

As for Ruru and Emiru my theory is that Emiru was supposed to be a cure, but Ruru developed her own persona and was chosen by golden lady or Hugtan's mother...or whoever she is. Harry is probably trying to revive Hugtan/Mother, but it's obviously not working.

I can't be the only one who thinks something really bad is gonna happen to Hana, even more so then most other lead precures, in the coming eps, am I?

Because with all the foreshadowing for Kurai merely being some sort of program that gives out orders in a Wizard of z esque scenario and George being such a creeper that even hugtan goes silent when near him, as well as what he did to papple, I have a bad feeling.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Jul 4th 2018 at 11:26:22 AM

Its Pretty Cure. The last time I felt something bad was going to happen to the main character was in Doki Doki. That ship has LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG since sailed!

But there's Sato Junichi, and he's put the pain on his characters before the happy ending. So you could be right, even if I doubt it.

^^ I really agree that something really bad is going to happen (poor Hana really might get the short end of the stick here) with all this future time-screwiness going on here. In the original Yes! We had the girls being trapped within masks in their own personal hell and needing to fight from within. I feel this season, before the final fight they could do something similar to that.

George kinda ruins the mood for me (in a good way). He's disturbing, but in a way that makes the scene so uncomfortable. I predict some serious shit going down for the finale. Hopefully Hugtto makes it's really good.

I agree that George is Creepy and that yes, this season is a bit more daring and that things wont be sunshine and rainbows, but you are expecting too much.

That said. I kind of expected something BAD to happen at the end of episode 22. Or at least a new challenge or even a mini Chandler's Law Cliffhanger like the ones in the early episodes.

Too many shits happening is not good either. I think the subplots of Hana feeling inadequate, followed by her losing her power, followed Hugtan falling to coma, which itself open a new subplot for the next episode is just too much for one episode.

^^ I completely agree. The only major issue I can say Hugtto has so far is that the wonky pacing can be quite glaring. They have a lot of good concepts, but some work better in execution than others imo. That episode with the world coming down on poor Hana and the baby going into a coma was wayyy to much for one sitting. They needed at lest 1 or 2 episodes on ONE of those topics alone. The product that came from them was pretty good, but I felt like they needed to slow down a bit.

So far this season has really impressed me so I'm hoping it does continue doing well.

Given the previous parallels made between George and Akio from Revolutionary Girl Utena, I wonder if he's going to pull something on Hana in a PG way.