Fixing zero context examples

Nearly all of the examples on The Witch's Throne are ZCE. The description also sounds copy-pasted.

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I just commented out a bunch of ZCEs in Plucky Office Girl. I'd noticed one example already commented out. Anyone familiar with said examples might want to elaborate on them. Here is a work list: Bubblegum Crisis, What Women Want, American Psycho, The Devil Wears Prada, Working Girl, Less Than Perfect.

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Not a work page but a trope page, but One of the Boys have a bit of "Insert Girl's Name, fullstop" examples which doesn't explain why the character fits the trope. Especially in the film folder

Daddy's Daughters is an absolute nightmare. Surprisingly enough, the character page actually seems to have more tropes with sufficient context than the main work page.

Edited by jandn2014 on Oct 29th 2020 at 5:40:57 AM

back lol

Savvy Guy, Energetic Girl have quite a bit of "Name + Name" example without sufficient context.

Miki Falls is pretty barren with several ZCEs. It's character page is basically empty, too.

It's been a really long time since I've read the books, so I'm not entirely sure how accurate my memory is regarding tropes and such.

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There's a lot of pages in the pinball namespace that are plagued with ZCEs. I've been trying to clean them up for a while, but there's still several left.

Pinball cleanup thread

Characters.Big Brother 9 has a few empty folders and about 90% of the examples have zero context. I also reported it to the character page cleanup thread for this problem.

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.

How bad is First Town? I only opened two folders, but it doesn't look good?

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Considering how this is a recurring problem among most of them, Big Brother should probably receive its own dedicated cleanup thread to mass-purge all the shoehorning they're prone to.

My thoughts exactly. I only started using the character page cleanup thread because I couldn't find a cleanup thread for Big Brother only.

Edited by Miss_Desperado on Nov 1st 2020 at 4:47:32 AM

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.

I looked through it quickly, and it looks decent to me. The most blatant I saw was the Legend of Zelda examples, but the others looked mostly OK.

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Probably a good time to just start one, since they're chock-full of tropes that are currently undergoing TRS, and thus this cleanup would help a ton of other people.

Good luck with that, as I'm not familiar with the series and can't help much.

I'll ask again, since I was buried the first time:

I've already asked this on the respective Clean-Up, but there's this example from YMMV.Alice In Wonderland 2010:

• The Woobie: The March Hare, who comes pre-broken (and to get this out of the way, arguably, the Hatter in his less subversive moods).
  The Hare: ...cup?

I've already said it before, I've paid actual attention when I've seen this movie and I have no idea why this entry thinks either of these characters qualify.

And I can't ask the person who added this example, since any information about them was wiped when the page had to be renamed. If anyone knows the context, please tell me, otherwise I'm going to cut this entry as soon as my suspension is lifted.

I'd just go with a cut there.

Yeah, I agree. It's a relic that really doesn't fit into current policies.

I would cut it myself if I could.

Delete it.

CSI has a lot of ZCE which I just commented out. Surprising, you'd think such a big show would have more activity on it.

Took care of the Woobie entry.

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Thank you.

Blaze Union also has severe ZCE issues.

Found another example in Consolers. I PM'd one of the editors responsible for adding the ZC Es, as they appear to still be active in the community. Hopefully they can help clean the page up.

I'm still not quite sure what makes a zero context example. So is this on I found on The Devil Wears Prada one:

• Vanilla Protagonist: Andy is perfectly fine, but there’s a reason why Meryl Streep was nominated for Best Actress instead of Anne Hathaway.

I don't think it gives enough context, but I am not really familiar with how this type of thing works. So I could use a second opinion on rather it is zero context or not.

Edited by Bullman on Nov 4th 2020 at 11:04:53 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread

It does not. It says a thing, but it doesn't explain how that thing actually is. The scope of ZCE includes a lot of examples that are a flat declaration of a character/work demonstrating a trope without effort to explain how the character/work demonstrates it.

Edited by AlleyOop on Nov 4th 2020 at 12:15:22 PM

Okay. Should I hide it or expand it?

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread

If you know how to, then go ahead. But note that Vanilla Protagonist doesn't just mean "main character is less interesting than the side cast", it means "main character's backstory and personality are intentionally made bland to allow for more focus on a colorful supporting cast".