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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
#2001: May 25th 2020 at 8:03:19 AM

Troper ~Classified has unhidden several Zero Context Examples on Chain Lightning without adding context.

While many of them have a lot of text, they consistently use the awkward and Word Cruft-y "this" construction instead of actually describing the example, e.g.:

  • The Zaguruzemu spell in Zatch Bell! had this as one of its many effects.

Many of them are probably valid examples that could be restored by adding context, but as written, they're no good.

Re-hiding pending discussion / consensus / cleanup.

Edited by HighCrate on May 25th 2020 at 8:23:40 AM

jandn2014 SMILE! from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#2002: May 26th 2020 at 6:10:13 AM

Many of the examples on Woobie.South Park completely lack context.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#2003: May 27th 2020 at 5:10:23 PM

Not sure what to do with this page, but the entire trope list on James Swallow lacks context.

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#2004: May 27th 2020 at 5:17:12 PM

Honestly I would just cut the trope list or least comment out everything if that's too drastic.

Edited by MacronNotes on May 27th 2020 at 8:18:42 AM

Macron's notes
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#2005: May 27th 2020 at 8:20:47 PM

Yeah, that'd work.

In other news, I just discovered that back in November, ~Grotadmorv deleted all of the ZCE markup I added to Toon Town Online, along with the commented-out warning. I can't just get a revert since edits have happened since, but more than anything, I just want to know why the hell they did that.

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#2006: May 27th 2020 at 9:56:35 PM

[up]They did attempt to add context to everything, and they didn't do a bad job. (Though the page still has plenty of ZCE anyway.)

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#2007: May 27th 2020 at 10:02:37 PM

Admittedly, sometimes it's hard to tell when I'm looking whether or not things were actually added or if things were just deleted; the history is...poorly formatted and confusing, especially if I'm mostly just looking to see who removed the tags and warning.

So okay, it's not as bad as I thought, though the warning shouldn't have been touched. That was actually what really threw me off; the fact that the warning was gone when I checked. If that had been kept, I might not have even noticed the rest of it even happened.

So I'm sorry for jumping the gun, but still, deleting the note was a weird and confusing choice on their part.

Edit: I made an ATT thread about this too though my real question is just "What to do if these things aren't noticed until months later", with the Toon Town thing more of a catalyst than anything. I also sent Grotad a second PM explaining my confusion and letting them know they can ignore the ping if they want, since it was a bit impulsive of me to send it in the first place.

Edited by WarJay77 on May 27th 2020 at 1:38:58 PM

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#2008: May 28th 2020 at 2:59:00 AM

Cleaned up Finger Wag. Some were just "character does this", and some were, with the (lack of) context given, just "character wags finger" with no reason as to why. I'm tired, so I wouldn't mind another pair of eyes on the page in case I missed anything or commented out something I shouldn't of.

Edit: a word

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on May 28th 2020 at 5:59:26 AM

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#2009: May 28th 2020 at 4:41:02 PM

You seem to have made it so that a folder cannot fold, I think by hiding the folders. Just so you are aware.

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#2010: May 28th 2020 at 5:10:52 PM

I... have no idea how that happened. Fixed it, either way; the %% was in between one of the brackets, then in your attempt to fix it you deleted said bracket.

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#2011: May 30th 2020 at 6:30:43 PM

I had to, how you say... Comment out nearly everything on How Do You Say because they were just quotes with no actual context.

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#2012: May 30th 2020 at 8:35:41 PM

Would someone mind doing the ZCEs in La Résistance? I've been cleaning and swapping wicks for a few hours and want to call it.

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#2013: Jun 1st 2020 at 12:38:37 AM

I went through the main page of What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made on Drugs? as far as I could (IE, down through the webcomics folder), just commenting out ZC Es, weblink only examples, and deleting one general example, before I had to stop because it was just too much frustration to go on. My standard was roughly "does it describe what makes people think it was made on drugs?" and if not, I commented out, while going with a conservative, if not sure leave it up plan. Also, I wasn't sure if the examples that admitted to some drug use should be cut or not

I think it might need TRS to set up some firm standards because it is bad, and I can't even imagine how bad the subpages are.

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#2014: Jun 1st 2020 at 12:40:25 AM

[up] Feel free to add it to the sandbox for now, and we can hash out a wick check later.

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#2015: Jun 1st 2020 at 1:23:31 PM

Twist of Fate has a ton of ZCEs that I just commented out.

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#2016: Jun 2nd 2020 at 4:39:26 PM

Afro Asskicker has a lot of ZCEs.

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#2017: Jun 2nd 2020 at 5:20:35 PM

[up] Went though that and commented out a ton of ZCEs.

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#2018: Jun 3rd 2020 at 7:21:47 AM

It's been a month since I don't have internet at home. Wanted to tell you that Mother 3 have too many ZCE, due to being a very old article.

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#2019: Jun 5th 2020 at 1:13:53 AM

Webcomic.Dogs Days Of Summer has no examples that give context. Should the page be cut?

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#2020: Jun 5th 2020 at 1:39:29 AM

[up]Normally I would say to PM the most recent editors but as the page hasn't been touched in three years (and that was to move a link to a new namespace) a cut could be warranted

Edited by SebastianGray on Jun 5th 2020 at 9:40:46 AM

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#2021: Jun 6th 2020 at 7:32:05 PM

Characters.Phantasy Star Universe is filled with Zero-Context Examples. I even had to comment one out because it was both complaining and a ZCE. If there's anyone whose played those games, this page is in dire need of expansion.

I really want to play through those games' story mode again, but I'm too busy with other things right now. Plus, my 360 version of Phantasy Star Universe is all scratched up when I had it as a kid. :c

Otherwise, it'd have to be cut.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Jun 6th 2020 at 11:36:53 AM

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#2022: Jun 8th 2020 at 3:37:05 PM

Oh boy, another Awesome Music subpage.

D'you think it'd be worth the effort for someone more musically literate than me to write up a UsefulNotes.How To Describe Music page? Cause I gotta admit, the best I can come up with for why I like the music I like is "it makes me rotate", which I'm 95% sure doesn't even make sense to people other than me.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
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#2023: Jun 8th 2020 at 3:41:39 PM

Yeah, part of the reason why Ear Worm was made IUEO was because it was impossible to give context.

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#2024: Jun 8th 2020 at 6:22:46 PM

The Mighty B! has a ton of ZCEs which I had to comment out.

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#2025: Jun 9th 2020 at 12:50:54 AM

noting that i cleaned up Series.Chewing Gum and Series.Borgia in the interval before this account could post here.


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