Fixing zero context examples

Got two more that I found while doing TRS cleanup, both being character sheets. Can they be salvaged in any way?

• SFC Forest Of Dreams
• Masters Of Evil Max Fury Members

Edited by Berrenta on Dec 9th 2019 at 8:33:51 AM

Look what I found.

• Digimon Fusion Kai Supporting Characters
• Digimon Fusion Kai Other Characters
• Digimon Fusion Kai Villains

(probably others on the index)

What to do? Cutlist? As far as I can see, there are no tropes listed with context (the villains — the last one — might have a couple of things that could be moved to the main page)

Cutlist, those have been around since 2014, they ain't getting any love anyway

Both pages have the bare minimum of tropes for a page to remain, but IMO, it'd be better to lump the context-provided tropes with the work pages.

• King Kong. As a description of how this trope fits would be akin to a plot synopsis, we recommend reading the page on King Kong instead.

Not only Zero Context, it refuses to give context.

Edited by randomtroper89 on Dec 9th 2019 at 1:38:45 PM

That's Actually Pretty Funny. Horrible and worthless, but funny.

The page is Non-Malicious Monster BTW.

To respond to Tabs's post:

I'll deal with SFC when I get home. It'd be too intensive on mobile.

As for Masters of Evil: it's part of a character sheet series for an established franchise. Hidden comments may have to do.

Edit: Masters of Evil done. Did a bit of expansion, though in some cases I combined a couple ZCE entries into one entry by placing some related tropes in the example body.

Edit: SFC is now done and cut.

Edited by Berrenta on Dec 10th 2019 at 7:52:40 AM

The Saint Seiya articles are complete yikes. I was reading the manga for the first time, went to look at the folders and my goodness, its not good. The characters folders lack description of who the characters are, and some tropes don't even bother putting a description, giving zero context.

Also, I created the 2Masters article years ago and haven't update it. I will re-read the volume I have to finally update it when I'm out of work and fix what I can.

Mea culpa.

Edited by Tomodachi on Dec 11th 2019 at 9:51:31 AM

Found a ZCE haven in Literature.People Of The Whale. I am commenting them out as we speak.

And we got a couple more!

• Characters.Metaspace Enforcers
• Characters.Shadowhunter Peril Demons

Found this during cleanup (for Go Out with a Smile BTW):

5 Second Films

It's littered with ZCE, mainly of the Weblinks Are Not Examples.

Yes. Also webcomics.

Edited by XFllo on Dec 14th 2019 at 10:43:02 AM

Weblinks Are Not Examples violations seem to be a pretty common type of ZCE with Web Original pages.

Yeah, I ran into it a lot when cleaning up VG Cats.

Speaking of Web Original, found WebOriginal.Stars In Black, which is loaded with ZC Es.

Mutant Mudds is a ZCE haven.

Would this count as a ZCE? This was just added to Characters.My Hero Academia Other Heroes:

• Super-Toughness: Based on a comment Kirishima made about them having similar Quirks, he apparently has the power to toughen up his body.

If we know that a character has probably has an ability, but we've never seen them actually use it, should it be added now, or should we wait until we have more information?

I believe that an example of Super-Toughness should describe cases where the character endures attacks that other characters couldn't, and/or how their toughness works (Can he turn his skin into stone or metal? Does he have a Healing Factor? Does he Feel No Pain? Something else?). This example currently does neither of these things.

Edited by Zuxtron on Dec 14th 2019 at 9:40:13 AM

"Character has/is this" is ZCE, so until it actually shows up in the work proper, it'll be hard to write context for. Unless the "comment" actually contains a lot of info? But it'd still be a trope not present in the work.

Edited by Tabs on Dec 16th 2019 at 3:20:55 AM

I am not current on My Hero Academia and am not familiar with the Crimson Riot character, but reading the Super-Toughness entry under Kirishima and the character description blurb of Crimson Riot, I was able to flesh out the context at least a little more:

• Super-Toughness: Discussed; Kirishima comments that Crimson's Riot's quirk is similar to his own. Kirishima's quirk allows him to harden any part of his body to the point that he can survive tons of steel falling on him. Given that Crimson Riot is a pro hero who Kirishima idolizes, this strongly implies that he is at least as tough.

Can someone who is more up-to-date on the work confirm that that looks accurate?

Edited by HighCrate on Dec 16th 2019 at 3:49:06 AM

~High Crate

We've never seen Crimson Riot in action. His only speaking appearance was in a flashback for Kirishima where he gives an interview. As a result, we have no idea about his quirk beyond "similar to Kirishima's". I'd remove that as Speculative Troping.

Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 16th 2019 at 9:08:13 AM

I think that works fine.

- Agreed. Implied Trope is a thing.

Capital Letters Are Magic lacks context for most of its first two sections. I believe the idiosyncratic example sorting is encouraging this here and should be abolished in favor of the conventional format.

Oh, and there's a huge General Section. How nice.

Because it's her birthday, I made headway on expanding Christina Aguilera's page. Please help me.