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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.
Edited to be a thread header.
Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM
There are a lot of "this is this" style ZCEs on TV Head Robot. It late and I am very tired
Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢Reposting from the previous page
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Do the following examples from The Kitchen look like they have enough context?:
- The '70s: In 1978 in Hell's Kitchen, when New York was really crime ridden and controlled by the mob.
- Domestic Abuse: Claire who is being abused by her husband at the beginning of the movie.
Not sure, but the page appears to be a stub without them anyway.
Cleaning up Miraculous Ladybug recap pages as we watch the show and we find ourselves with a question: how the heck do you properly contextualize Fearful Symmetry?
(Recap page in question is "Copycat", if anyone wants to take a shot.)
Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.Yeah, that's not really what happens at all. Snip snip, then.
e: Oh, look, it's a video example right there on the page. Hrm. That looks kinda symmetrical? I can't tell, honestly.
Edited by wingedcatgirl on Apr 13th 2021 at 12:52:53 PM
Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.Rewatching the entire fight, they do seem to be approximately evenly matched, but it's a bit of a plot point that the real Cat Noir has used a bit more of his energy at this point, letting Ladybug tell them apart by looking at their Transformation Trinkets' energy readouts.
The actual resolution is Ladybug catching Copycat with an improvised fishing-rod-ish-thing so she can fulfill the show's formula by stealing and destroying his akumatized item, freeing him from Hawk Moth's influence.
I have no idea what any of this does or doesn't have to do with Fearful Symmetry and I think maybe I don't understand that trope?
Edited by wingedcatgirl on Apr 13th 2021 at 1:48:07 PM
Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.I was trying to determine if there was anything in their fighting styles, etc. that would differentiate them. The answer appears to be no: If they'd faced each other with exactly the same energy levels and no interruptions, they would have gone on trading blows until both collapsed at the same time. They have the symmetry: Mirrored attack/parry pairs, those wind-up staff attacks that cause them both to lose a grip on the staves —and their reaction to same—, etc.
Remember: Symmetry is not limited to bilateral simultaneous actions.
This actually comes across as a much straighter example than some on the trope page.
Ah, that makes sense. In that case:
- Fearful Symmetry: Copycat has the exact same fencing-based fighting style as Cat Noir, his same Miraculous powers, and seemingly the same level of skill as well. Once Ladybug frees Cat from the chain trap, the two spend the rest of the fight trading blows, with neither having any clear advantage or disadvantage until Ladybug steals and destroys Copycat's akumatized photo.
Does this look good?
Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.Kaiju Big Battel have a bit... no, a LOT of "X is this trope" problems...
Series.Scarecrow And Mrs King is in pretty poor shape. I'd clean it now, but I'm crosswicking my new launch. If anyone wants to tackle it before me, be my guest, or else I'll do it afterward.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallCleaned up TV Head Robot. I wonder if "robot has tv/computer for head" is actually notable...
Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢The Eleven O'Clock Number seems to be a ZCE-magnet. I commented out most Theatre examples on the page that I couldn't expand upon myself, so if anybody can add more context to them, feel free.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.Whoo, this one's pretty bad. But since it's an old anime page that have not seen updates for a year, that's expected.
Anyway, here be Sonic Soldier Borgman and its character page.
So, in The Very Definitely Final Dungeon page there are a lot of zero context examples of Final Fantasy Dungeons, most of which include a vague, single-sentence descriptions at most, all of which are potholed to the respective game.
Since trying to fix them all individually is a titanic task, I ask here for some help on expanding those examples.
Edited by Makir on Apr 18th 2021 at 6:35:46 PM
Assuming context could be expanded, maybe the folder could be split off onto its own page.
Agreed.
The separate page could also have folders either by alphabet or by Eastern vs. Western like with Brutal Bonus Level for example.
Note that Eastern and Western RPGs are distinct subgenres.
Edited by Nen_desharu on Apr 18th 2021 at 11:24:05 AM
Kirby is awesome.Thumb Wrestling Federation have piles of those ZCEs...
... as does Terrible. A fanfic which I doubt still exists on the Internet, considering there doesn't seem to be any proper updates since, 2019?
Edited by RobertTYL on Apr 19th 2021 at 4:34:40 PM
Crashbox consists almost entirely of ZCEs. What should I do?
Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
Probably lots of percent signs. Considering how many tropes the page has, there might be enough entries with context to prevent the page from getting cut.
On the flip side, a quick look at Family Affair makes it clear that nobody on the site has ever actually seen the show (though again, there's just enough to save it from being cut). Even more so for the revival, which only has one trope for it.

From Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel:
Some of these might be OK, some could use elaboration, some just seem cutworthy altogether as personal opinions.