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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#2526: Dec 2nd 2020 at 9:45:19 PM

Was doing an Entry Pimp for Shanghai Grand when I chanced upon the Dragon Lady page.

Count how many "X is Asian woman who wears qipao" example are there?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#2527: Dec 3rd 2020 at 12:02:16 AM

Dooftrapped needs to be completely rewritten from top to bottom. All of the examples are poorly written or formatted.

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#2528: Dec 3rd 2020 at 4:44:39 AM

[up] There is a dedicated cleanup thread for that.

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#2530: Dec 5th 2020 at 11:04:34 AM

Super Weight is practically entirely zces. I thought it was because it was Just for Fun, but it seems to be sprinkled throughout the wiki like a regular trope.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#2531: Dec 6th 2020 at 6:35:16 AM

Okay. From Live-Action Films and Happiest Season:

Are these Zero Context? As well I'm not sure these count as looking around there seems to be just as much, if not more, support for the canon ship on several sites on the internet. I brought later up on the FPC thread and only got one response, and looking at the entries they are either relying on outside sources with out elaboration or just saying this thing counts without context.

Edited by Bullman on Dec 7th 2020 at 2:41:59 PM

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#2532: Dec 7th 2020 at 6:52:11 AM

So any opinions on the entries I brought up above?

Edited by Bullman on Dec 7th 2020 at 8:52:54 AM

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#2533: Dec 7th 2020 at 12:13:10 PM

[up][up][up] A lot of Sorting Algorithm of Tropes pages have the same problem; I feel like a bulk Trope Repair Shop thread could be in order.

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#2534: Dec 8th 2020 at 7:51:15 PM

  • The 99 Rooms has a lot of instances listing off when something happens, but not how or what the trope is.

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#2535: Dec 11th 2020 at 8:07:24 PM

Any opinions on the entries I brought up? I don't want to sound impatient, but it's been a few days.

Edited by Bullman on Dec 11th 2020 at 11:18:24 AM

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#2536: Dec 12th 2020 at 6:19:09 AM

I don't know if this is the right place if the page is chock full of Weblinks Are Not Examples violations, but Everything 2 has alot of them. Though given that it's a fiction writing website and several fiction literature are hosted there, it might be better to keep the page itself, but cut the examples.

[down] I cut all the examples despite a small amount of them being valid (like The Epic one) because i'm worried people will refill the page with ZCE's again.

Edited by SomeLibre on Dec 15th 2020 at 1:38:51 AM

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#2537: Dec 14th 2020 at 7:31:07 AM

[up] Weblinks Are Not Examples cases can be brought up here, as it's a type of ZCE.

As for the examples, just comment them out.

randomtroper89 from The Fire Nation Since: Nov, 2010
#2538: Dec 14th 2020 at 10:34:14 PM

A rather odd exceptions only example:

  • Affectionate Parody: It's clear that Jello loves the series he's making fun of, aside from a few criticisms. The sole exceptions are Adventure Time, Kingdom Hearts, and RWBY.
    • With Adventure Time, Jello finds that Finn, Jake, and Princess Bubblegum are unsympathetic leads, the humor is awkward and stupid, the excessive Toilet Humor is annoying, the show doesn't conclude character arcs, and it focuses too much on romantic subplots. Jello much rather prefers the stories of the tertiary cast over the main story.
    • With Kingdom Hearts, Jello believes that the series' infamous Kudzu Plot makes it basically impossible to understand, the fact that the characters seem to pull sudden plot developments out of nowhere makes it annoying, and that the Ho Yay implications between multiple characters (Sora and Riku especially) are impossible to ignore. To prove the first point, Jello replaces the word "darkness" with the word "bees" throughout the video, saying that it makes just as much sense as the actual plot.invoked
    • With RWBY, Jello finds that the show has too many plotlines that go nowhere. Jello argues that the show has too many characters and no idea what to do with any of them (especially singling out Blake as being bland and uninteresting). Jello saves most of his main criticisms for the plot, saying it takes forever for the main plot to start, tries to paint Ozpin as morally grey and fails at it, and doesn't do sufficient world building for a world that really needs it. He feels the pacing of the first three volumes is flawed such that it's best to view them all as one long season, and he then says to avoid volumes 4 and 5 altogether as they are garbage.

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#2539: Dec 15th 2020 at 11:11:30 PM

Robot Girl has a truly ridiculous number of ZCEs to the point where I don't even know what would qualify as sufficient context.

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#2540: Dec 16th 2020 at 4:34:49 PM

This example from PortingDisaster.Multi Platform is really bashy and doesn't explain the issues for specific ports, instead lumping it all in one.

  • Donkey Kong was screwed up horribly in some way in most ports (excluding Donkey Kong '94, which is more of a remake), ranging from awful controls, to completely messed up graphics and music, to even cutting out the cement factory or elevator stages (or both). These videos show several different versions of the game. One of them is the NES version, another is a graphics hack of the NES version, both of which are very good despite lacking the cement factory stage — and even that was re-added to a limited rerelease during the '10s, and another is the Colecovision version, which, while far from an arcade-perfect port, was good enough to be a Killer App at the time. The rest? They all suck horribly, though special mention goes to the ZX Spectrum version, which is especially bad. When the Intellivision version was released, people at Mattel (correctly) suspected it to be an act of sabotage on the part of Coleco.

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#2541: Dec 18th 2020 at 6:03:08 AM

[up]Why is the NES version listed there if the example calls it good?

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#2542: Dec 18th 2020 at 6:41:41 AM

[up][up][up]That is just complaining and gives no information about how the trope is used. Just delete it.

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#2543: Dec 18th 2020 at 7:14:04 PM

VideoGame.Bomberman 93 is almost exclusively made up of ZCEs and only has maybe two valid examples. Thankfully it's a small list of tropes.

Edit: VideoGame.Bomberman 94 has the same issue, but more valid examples.

Edited by Karxrida on Dec 18th 2020 at 7:28:57 AM

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#2544: Dec 19th 2020 at 10:55:57 AM

I removed Word Cruft from VideoGame.Hyrule Warriors Age Of Calamity and YMMV.Hyrule Warriors Age Of Calamity and commented out Zero Context Examples on both pages; I left a commented-out ZCE notice on the latter page, but forgot to on the former page partially because I wasn't as thorough with ZCEs as I was with Word Cruft (the YMMV page was shorter than the main page, so it was easier for me to go through), and partially because I already left enough consecutive edits for now.

Edit: Accidentally said "simultaneous" instead of "consecutive" because my sleep schedule has been screwed up the past few days (and I'm currently trying to fix that). I would have just quietly fixed the mistake if I didn't find it funny.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 19th 2020 at 5:25:45 AM

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#2546: Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:49:25 AM

Same as this character page: Britsune Garden Series

One of the characters is even listed as a Complete Monster, and we all know putting that item on a Character sheet is a Big No-no

Edited by RobertTYL on Dec 24th 2020 at 3:50:30 AM

MetroidPeter Med School Alumni from Somewhere Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#2547: Dec 23rd 2020 at 2:25:10 AM

I found a ZCE in Determinator's Real Life sub-page under Mountaineers and Survival Ordeals. It's the first example.

  • The first ascent of Nanga Parbat by Hermann Buhl. Enough said.

Obviously not. Can anyone provide context?

Edited by MetroidPeter on Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:25:27 PM

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#2548: Dec 23rd 2020 at 3:02:08 AM

I have no idea what any of that means.

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Carnildo Since: Jan, 2001
#2549: Dec 23rd 2020 at 9:14:07 PM

Nanga Parbat is a mountain in the Himalayas with a well-deserved reputation for killing would-be climbers. Hermann Buhl not only was the first person to climb it, but he did so solo, which implies a certain amount of determination. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the climb to provide any more context than that.

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#2550: Dec 23rd 2020 at 9:17:19 PM

Well, even that is more context than the actual example has.


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