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I have to say that the X Men franchise has been going on for decades. Maybe not as many as the Superman franchise has, but it still has quite a number to it.
One thing I am certain of is that the franchise seems to be subverting Status Quo Is God in recent years. Magneto and Professor Xavier seem to be fading into the background, with Cyclops and Wolverine taking their places. A lot of villains associated to the X-Men have been killed off and have actually stayed dead so far.
All this gives me the general impression that the franchise is trying to reinvent itself. Do you think that's what's going on here?
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I thought Moira was a shoe-in for this council (unless they don't want to reveal her status to more people??), her non-appearance in this incarnation of Krakoa is becoming odder by the moment.
Also with all this talk of copies of the mutant mind and the variations Cerebro has, I wonder if Xavier has to use a similar method to sift through the sheer amount of minds like the X-Men of Year 100 used to find the Nimrod data.
Small preview of Marauders #1. "An offer you can't refuse."
I love it already.
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I saw speculation that Moira could use the pods and the Five to cheat the life limit, which would essentially serve as her "eleventh life" or possibly more, so I wonder if anyone else thinks this is viable because I have no clue if her powers would allow this.
Hmm. Technically Moira's power means that whenever she dies, she reverts back to the womb. If she's a Pod Clone, then she might revert back to when she's in the pod, meaning she can then control when she comes back, rather than have it be her entire lifetime. But then, of course, there would be two Moira's. If the other Moira died, she would revert back to her original life and either live it again or die before she was thirteen.
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I'm predicting that the title for House of X #6, "I Am Not Ashamed of What I Am" probably comes from Moira.
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Someone pointed out in the comments section of the POX 5 annotations that in light of the Year 1000 reveals in POX 5, this passage from the Chimera infograph in POX 1 is probably wayyyyy more relevant than it seemed at first glance (bolding added by me for emphasis).
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One argument I keep hearing frim some is how Krakoa is like a cult? To which I have to ask what book were you reading?
I think they mean: how is it like a cult and not like pretty much every other religion?
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Maybe because they're not forcing their beliefs upon anyone and giving mutants a choice to live on Krakoa.
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Maybe if they didn't parade around Scott and the other's naked bodies like they were sacred objects of worship and weren't chanting like a cult of personality, I'd be less concerned. Nevermind treating The Five as beings of reverence. Is it too much to ask that everyone just act like a normal society instead of a hyper-obsessed cult or religious sect?
And speaking as a Christian, while I don't have a problem with religious beliefs, I'm still a bit iffy on organized religion.
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How exactly is a society supposed to act "normally" when they have access to ressurection chambers?
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"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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i wonder why there aren't any hot takes about the church of machines from POX's Year 100
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At the very least they don't have to act like a cult or religious sect. Because right now it's teetering dangerously close to either.
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Yeah, how dare they celebrate the mutants who have essentially helped them overcome death and provide them with a way of bringing back their unjustly killed loved ones. And how dare they also celebrate the revived mutants who gave their lives to destroy the genocide machine.
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They can celebrate them without going "I KNOW HIM!" or " WHAT IS HE?!" and everyone chanting "MUTANT!" Just announce they're alive and have a normal celebration.
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Starting to think we're getting close to some kind of fallacy here. From I'm gathering isn't that they're being celebrated, but are being held in reverence.
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‘My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’
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Pretty much.
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
I mean, when you take into context that they’re a minority group fighting back against genocide and actually reversing its effects, I can’t blame them for making a show out of it. Like, this is a big fucking deal.
I just think people are being a little too jumpy about all of this.
Oh God! Natural light!
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The problem is doing things like that risks creating a cult of personality or instilling a sense of intense religious devotion. They're cultivating a sheer blinding loyalty to their ideals, which if taken too far could end up being incredibly dangerous. If Magneto or some other extremist told them to, say, wage war on humanity? There's a chance they may actually do it. No questions asked.
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Why WOULD they wage war on humanity when their end goal is to thrive?
Because historically, mutantkind is...kind of self-sabotaging.
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I'm not saying that Magneto or whoever would give the order. Just that there's the risk of the Krakoans becoming so blindly devoted they would carry such an order out without hesitation. Or anything comparable without bothering to think if they should actually do it.
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I don't really see any possibility of that happening. No more so that on the likes of Wakanda.
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Again, I am not saying that someone would give such an order, and I'll keep saying that as many times as I have to. That is NOT what this is about. This is about cultivating a cult of personality that woukd carry such orders out without hesitation if they were given. Regardless of whether they were actually ordered or not.
Wow, I hope that reveal was intentional!
Kate Pryde as Emma's choice harkens back to Astonishing X-Men, no?