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lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#51: May 20th 2014 at 8:08:00 PM

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-My DVR, instead or recording the new episode and Finale of the series, decided to go "Oh, screw that final episode of this series you love so much. Here! Have a whole crap load of the old episodes that you love instead of the episode that will probably have you throwing you're remote at me... Why are you coming at me with a crowbar?"

Is it on Hulu or some download site that I don't need an account for?

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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#52: May 20th 2014 at 8:30:25 PM

I haven't even seen past the first half of season four. How good would you say the second half of season four and the last season are?

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#53: May 20th 2014 at 9:57:39 PM

I'd say its still a fun series, though it starts... Growing the beard in the sense that its really established its universe, rules, and etc and now can take on weightier plot lines. Fun, but it does get rather grim at times which I won't spoil why.

Which is dashed to shit when its final "season" is six fucking episodes that backtrack on the previous few seasons. Though, I thought I'd hate the Hispanic Soap Opera episode and I ended up loving it.

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#54: May 20th 2014 at 10:06:24 PM

I loved the soap opera episode.

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#55: May 20th 2014 at 10:35:48 PM

I still haven't gotten past Season 1 Episode 1 yet, and my brain shat itself trying to figure out what was going on. Rewatch time?

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#56: May 21st 2014 at 5:07:46 AM

Definitely. Now that it's over you're capable of seeing reviews, figuring out roughly where it's going, and you can get the seasons on Netflix or DVD without wondering what the creators are going to come up with next. It's always sad when a show ends, but it's not a bad thing when you can get the complete series and know it had a worthy ending. Which it did. I stopped watching for a while, but I tuned in for the finale and it worked for the show.

YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
#57: May 21st 2014 at 6:57:36 AM

The soap opera episode was the sort of crazy stupid hilarious this show just loves... though I think I would have liked it better if it had been aired at a more lighthearted point in the show. As it is it does feel kind of out of place. Not much they could have done about that, I guess, but still...

Seriously, though. Old girlfriend shows up heavily pregnant, but the real problem is "my grandma's TV is haunted"? This show in a nutshell XD

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#58: May 21st 2014 at 11:32:29 AM

[up][up]Agreed. It was the fun odd-ball episode in a season of... really crampt plot. I assume that they probably always intended to do such an episode and, when given a final order of only 6 episodes, they smashed it in there. That, or it was a quick comic relief episode made on the spot.

The stereotypically Gay Jinks episode was funny but I wish it had a better conclusion.

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YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
#59: May 21st 2014 at 11:46:45 AM

Well, they did need most of the characters out of the Warehouse for a bit so that evil other-timeline whatshisname could sneak in there and take Claudia's sister and stuff.

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#60: May 21st 2014 at 3:04:23 PM

Claudia's sister wasn't in the warehouse though.

Didn't Claudia have a brother at somepoint, come to think of it? Also, I feel like, while the whole 'the artifact was destroyed but the effect it had weren't' angle was interesting, I can't help but feel like we've had scenes in previous seasons where the artifact was destroyed and the powers stopped. I can even think of one this season.

Instead of bagging the record player, didn't Myka just shove it over and destroy it?

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YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
#61: May 21st 2014 at 3:10:22 PM

I think the reason it didn't work with the music box had something to do with its power fully transferring to the sis. And yeah, she does have a brother, he's just busy at CERN. He was even mentioned in the previous season finale, though I'm not sure if we were told where he was while the music box thing was going down. University? How much older than Claudia is he?

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#62: May 21st 2014 at 3:17:06 PM

Still, considering they're introducing this plot point in a horribly rushed 6-episode-season, I'd be surprised if the broken artifact rule is consistent with the previous seasons. The lack of explaining the difference between the Music Box incident and the afore-mentioned Record Player don't help matters.

That's why I was asking. No mention in any of the past dialogue of him. Which is incredibly strange. Her sister is in her late thirties, seemingly, and Claudia is 21, I think. Leaving her brother (I think his name was Patrick, my name, for some reason, but I could be wrong) around 25-ish? Which means he should logically have witnessed the Music Box stuff as he isn't much older than Claudia, but he's never mentioned.

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#63: May 21st 2014 at 6:25:56 PM

See also: The Donner Party glass jar that Pete smashed.

edited 21st May '14 6:26:13 PM by Eagal

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#64: May 21st 2014 at 8:23:54 PM

Well, it might depend on the artifact. Some of the artifacts need to be actively doing things to function, but the music box seemed more like it was storing the powers and they got moved into Claudia's sister.

Like...most of the artifacts sort of act like the center of a viral effect, or the artifact itself does the effect, but in this case the abilities seem to have a "one person at a time" thing going on.

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#65: May 21st 2014 at 9:29:11 PM

-shrug- Who knows? They didn't establish much on what exactly the difference is.

edited 21st May '14 9:56:04 PM by lancesolous13

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#66: May 21st 2014 at 9:40:17 PM

One major difference is that the other artifacts were smashed. The music box was burned. Maybe that had something to do with it.

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#67: May 26th 2014 at 12:40:07 PM

Finally got the Series Finale.

... I'm not entirely sure if I liked that episode. The flashbacks to mid-mystery we've never heard of were bothersome in that I would have liked to see a few of them as full episodes. There's too little context to add any tension either. I did like the 42nd Street opening though, but there were some real contrivances there such as "You need to do this Claudia. You're the only one" without explaining WHY she's the only one who can.

I was also sort of put off by Mrs. Fredrick's flashback moments happening entirely off screen since I don't think we ever got her backstory to all of this. Jink's backstory was nice and I liked what it was doing, but it felt awkward since he basically third-wheels everyone else's plotlines, something he notes before his flashback. The addition of Artie having a son was also out of nowhere and I think that would have been brought up a lot sooner, particularly since he had a girlfriend last season.

Still hating the Pete and Myka love each other story. That kiss had... no chemistry and the writing was off and... Ugh. Please don't. "I just realized you totally have a thing for Pete that never came up before this month." I cringed.

Lastly, the final scene was a bit confusing... So, wait, the entire episode was about the warehouse moving to another country, but 'Decades Later' its STILL in the same mountain? And its STILL Warehouse 13 as based on the hats the Future!Warehouse Staff are wearing? Was Pete and everyone's concern about the Warehouse moving all for nothing? Was this episode technically pointless???

I want to like this episode. I REALLY want to. But there are so many issues with it...

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#68: May 26th 2014 at 1:46:44 PM

The biggest problem was that the writers clearly had a much longer plan, but they were forced to smash it down to six episodes. And one of the episodes, while hilarious, (the telenovela episode) had basically nothing to do with the main plot except for the last minute.

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#69: Mar 18th 2015 at 1:56:20 AM

First episode is going down a lot more smoothly than last time. Only thing I don't get is, why did they flick a lighter in front of Marzotto, and why did he douse himself in gasoline?

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#70: Mar 18th 2015 at 2:06:03 AM

The light from the lighter activated the artifact.

Crazy person wants man dead. Crazy person has mind control artifact. Man kills self. I wonder how these three things are related. :hmm

edited 18th Mar '15 2:08:34 AM by Eagal

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#71: Mar 18th 2015 at 2:18:56 AM

[up]Light activated the artifact? I didn't pick up on that at all. I still have no idea on that part. Elaborate?

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#72: Mar 18th 2015 at 2:41:26 AM

No idea on which part? The part about Marzotto killing himself? Because I feel I summed it up pretty well. A bit more explanation:

Marzotto apparently stole the artifact from wherever it was originally. Somewhere in Italy. He gave the artifact to Lorna Soliday, unaware of its power, because he thought they was in lurv. When Myka and Peter started snooping around he wanted to take it back so he could return it, and Soliday was all "lolno, die in a fire, beeyotch."

Or did you mean how the artifact work? Techno Babble + A Wizard Did It.

edited 18th Mar '15 2:43:51 AM by Eagal

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#73: Mar 18th 2015 at 2:50:49 AM

[up]Huh? When did he give it to Lorna?! Also, Lorna was the one who lit the lighter?

edited 18th Mar '15 2:51:01 AM by Twentington

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#74: Mar 18th 2015 at 2:58:13 AM

At some point before the episode. And yes.

You say you're rewatching, not seeing the episode the first time? Pay more attention, meine square!

edited 18th Mar '15 2:58:46 AM by Eagal

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#75: Mar 18th 2015 at 3:05:29 AM

[up]The thing is, I'm terrible at connecting the dots like that. This was the part that confused me the most because I didn't realize what Lorna was doing with the lighter, nor could I figure out a reason why he did that.

How did she mind control him though?


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