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Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
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#151: Jan 3rd 2012 at 8:03:22 PM

I didn't think "Tonight, Tonight" was that bad. It's not very good, but I don't see it as horrible; it's just mediocre. I change the radio when it comes on (which it rarely does now), but it's an average pop-rock song. Just one without any emotion or soul. It's an empty song that sounds more like it should be in a commercial to sell some throwaway consumer product. The lyrics are terrible, but it has a catchy and memorable chorus and the instruments are technically good but not in a musical way. It's just there - mediocre and catchy, but empty.

As for the current electropop trend... music cycles usually last 5 - 6 years; electropop broke out into the pop scene with Just Dance (R&B and hip-hop with electronic instruments are not the same...) in early 2009. 2013/2014 is when it's going to die off; I don't see Adele's type of music becoming more popular than it is at the moment. And, before I get the argument that it was always there; yes, it was, and has been since the early 80s, but not to the overwhelming level that it was today (and in the early 80s).

I think it's going to be rock music with synthesizers that's going to replace the electropop we have right now.

edited 3rd Jan '12 8:19:04 PM by Completion

KingNerd Can-I-Bus from Suburbia. Since: Dec, 1969
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#152: Jan 4th 2012 at 7:59:22 AM

I agree but I belive the vocals are Autotuned which while I tolerate in Pop I can't stand the use of in Rock

edited 4th Jan '12 7:59:41 AM by KingNerd

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Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
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#153: Jan 4th 2012 at 9:10:05 AM

Yeah, I agree with you on that.

Though, I don't really see Hot Chelle Rae as a rock band; it's a pop group with drums, guitars, and bass.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#154: Jan 4th 2012 at 4:57:46 PM

Someone did a retarded remix of Crazy train. That was about the last straw for me.

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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#155: Jan 4th 2012 at 5:01:37 PM

[up][up]I think there are several groups like that. There's Hanson and the Jonas Brothers, that much is clear, and Hot Chelle Rae is the most recent part of the category.

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#156: Jan 4th 2012 at 5:21:48 PM

Well, Hanson is more alt-rock now and the Jonas Brothers are arguably not that bad.

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Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#157: Jan 4th 2012 at 6:37:26 PM

I think it's going to be rock music with synthesizers that's going to replace the electropop we have right now

I don't know. That's not a new concept at all, and there aren't a lot of rock acts around that aren't punk or psot-grunge, which rules any sort of electronic instrumentation.

The thing about LMFAO is that they are actually... good. Mixing rap and euro-eletronica works, and it's much better danc emsuic then other acts. Flo Rida is the only guy that has really caught on, and I like his stuff too.

The music videos are good too.

edited 4th Jan '12 6:42:08 PM by Erock

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Section42L Since: Jan, 2011
#158: Jan 4th 2012 at 7:38:26 PM

@Joesolo: For some reason, DJ types seem to like to remix and mash-up “Crazy Train”. If you do a casual search for it, you’ll see what I mean. It seems like L’il Jon just happened to be the first person who hit the charts using that concept.

RW64II RW 64 II from São Paulo Since: Aug, 2011
#159: Jan 4th 2012 at 8:16:04 PM

So basically, there are people who think LMFAO are funny and people who think that they are talentless hacks riding on nepotism and current pop music trends.

And a million fanfics were written...
Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#160: Jan 4th 2012 at 8:42:45 PM

And then there's me who thinks they're an improvement.

edited 4th Jan '12 8:44:06 PM by Erock

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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#161: Jan 5th 2012 at 4:34:45 AM

I think it's going to be rock music with synthesizers that's going to replace the electropop we have right now.

Like the Killers? Or Franz Ferdinand? The Kaiser Chiefs? It seems to me that they've all had their day, though maybe the first two will manage a comeback like Maroon 5. Even Duran Duran could qualify as "rock music with synthesizers" (they're probably one of the main influences on a lot of those bands, actually).

I wonder how long the female singer/songwriter trend will last. It seems to have been going on for a while.

edited 5th Jan '12 4:35:27 AM by TheGloomer

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#162: Jan 5th 2012 at 5:10:18 AM

If you wanna get technical, The Who was arguably the first major band to put synths in rock music. (The Beatles too, but not to the extent of The Who.)

edited 5th Jan '12 5:12:16 AM by 0dd1

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PinkamenaDianePie Stabby Stabby Party Pony from Sugarcube Corner Since: Dec, 2011
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#163: Jan 5th 2012 at 6:41:02 AM

"Crazy Train" is a very easy song to get stems for, and has a lot of memorable pieces that are catchy and identifiable, which is why it's used frequently.

there aren't a lot of rock acts around that aren't punk or psot-grunge

>Implying Electropunk isn't a thing.

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#164: Jan 5th 2012 at 2:17:21 PM

[up][up][up] There was a female singer-songwriter trend in 2006-07 (with artists such as Regina Spektor and Sara Bareilles doing well). Then it died out when the record labels decided that gimmicks (Lady Gaga) and manufactured images (Katy Perry) sold more albums.

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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#165: Jan 5th 2012 at 3:03:48 PM

What would that make Adele? Is she an anomalous exception? Her debut album came out in the same year as The Fame and Katy Perry's first mainstream album, but she seems more akin to the "first wave" of female solo artists.

Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
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#166: Jan 5th 2012 at 6:21:57 PM

The image portrayed in pop music is just as important as the music itself.

While Katy Perry's image is manufactured, dissing Lady Gaga's as a "gimmick" isn't entirely fair. She's kept it up this far, it's interesting, and adds to her music and performances.

edited 5th Jan '12 6:22:19 PM by Completion

Section42L Since: Jan, 2011
#167: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:37:37 PM

@The Gloomer: Adele is part of an ongoing trend of retro-tinged female British soul singers, some of whom have also become a success in the United States. Other examples of this trend include Duffy, Joss Stone, and Amy Winehouse. The Black Keys, despite being male U.S. natives, have also benefitted from this trend because they play retro-tinged blues-rock/soul.

edited 5th Jan '12 8:41:39 PM by Section42L

Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#168: Jan 5th 2012 at 10:05:47 PM

The Who was arguably the first major band to put synths in rock music

I hope you realized how much I wanted to say it but decided against it (I used to be such a broken record).

But now that's it's been said, Who's Next was the first album that used synths as a foundation of or a song, ot jsut to make sounds and effects.

@inane: That's at least 30 years old. I'm talking now. If anything, rock is going to move away from dance pop. Of course, it'll still be bad.

edited 5th Jan '12 10:18:22 PM by Erock

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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#169: Jan 6th 2012 at 2:26:23 AM

While Katy Perry's image is manufactured, dissing Lady Gaga's as a "gimmick" isn't entirely fair. She's kept it up this far, it's interesting, and adds to her music and performances.

If I might mention something about Lady Gaga, I've seen some debate that Born This Way wouldn't have sold as well if amazon.com hadn't marked its price down to 99 cents for a couple of days in the week it came out. How likely is this?

I've also heard that her recent singles have bombed. Since I don't keep track of the charts in America (beyond what's in the Top 10 positions) I must ask if this is true.

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#170: Jan 6th 2012 at 3:30:36 AM

I don't know about bombing, but their peak position's slowly declining.

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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#171: Jan 6th 2012 at 3:57:34 AM

Amittedly my source for that is Billboard website comments, which seem to be ten times stupider than You Tube comments.

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#172: Jan 6th 2012 at 5:56:55 AM

@Erock: S'alright. Hey, I'd might as well give credit for something to someone other than The Beatles for once.

@Gloomer: Yeah, bombing would be a. grossly inaccurate term for it. They still made pretty good impressions on the radio at least.

Side note: So, I have heard in interviews and the like that Lady Gaga was in a rock band long before fame struck. Anyone else curious about this music of her previous life?

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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#173: Jan 6th 2012 at 6:40:10 AM

[up]I'm not personally saying they bombed; I've heard that they did and I was curious whether it was true. I mean, from what I can see her album has four singles that were in the Top 10, which is no mean feat.

I guess I'm only hearing teh haterz side of things.

edited 6th Jan '12 6:40:19 AM by TheGloomer

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#174: Jan 6th 2012 at 8:08:05 AM

Oh, no, I'm just responding to what you said you heard.

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Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
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#175: Jan 6th 2012 at 12:47:18 PM

This is what she was like:

The Stefani Germanotta band released one EP.

edited 6th Jan '12 5:50:53 PM by Completion


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