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jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#626: Jan 30th 2022 at 2:42:21 PM

I'm still not sure if it's an alternate continuity or not.

edit: apparently it is an alternate continuity.

Edited by jjjj2 on Jan 30th 2022 at 6:08:40 AM

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EmeraldSource Since: Jan, 2021
#627: Jan 30th 2022 at 3:33:55 PM

That looks pretty slick. Reminds me of The Mandalorian in that it is a TV show that has a clearly cinematic style to everything. It will take some getting used to a different storyline and character voices, but one thing 343 has done well is making sure Master Chief is a well defined character and not just a projection of the players. It will be interesting to see how they expand the story and depict the style of the games.

That dodging of the energy blades really clinched it for me.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#628: Jan 30th 2022 at 4:15:30 PM

Doesn't look too bad. I'm puzzled though, humans actually meeting the Prophets?

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#629: Jan 30th 2022 at 4:20:53 PM

[up][up][up][up]I wasn't sure myself after listening to the one line she said, but apparently it was just the delivery since Jen Taylor's supposed to be voicing Cortana.

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#630: Jan 30th 2022 at 4:43:49 PM

[up][up]One of the human characters has been stated in previous articles to have been raised by the Covenant for their own presumably nefarious purposes (namely the blonde lady who shows up at 1:34).

Edited by UmbrellasWereAwesome on Jan 30th 2022 at 5:45:27 PM

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#631: Jan 30th 2022 at 5:19:20 PM

Given that only humans can fire the Halos, my best guess is that they're being groomed to activate the things.

It reminds me of the bonuses with the Halo 2 special editions where some of the Covenant were confused why the Prophets never tried recruiting humanity like the other races, especially given how several races had fought the prophets on first contact.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#632: Jan 30th 2022 at 5:26:40 PM

[up][up] I figured it was something along those lines, but wasn't sure.

Actually reminds me of a fanfic I tried to write once about a Spartan that deserted and joined the Covenant.

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#633: Jan 30th 2022 at 6:22:16 PM

Oh oh oh are we getting Insurgent!Master Chief in this one if it's gonna be an Alternate Continuity? I always figured that idea was Fanfic Fuel but the rebels never really got much light shown on them in the main storyline on account of that whole "Completely overshadowed on every level by a alien invasion" thing.

I'm sorta expecting a 1 v 3 Spartan brawl at one point or another. There aren't many shots of all four of the Spartans in one place.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Jan 30th 2022 at 2:23:25 PM

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#634: Jan 30th 2022 at 6:27:38 PM

Anyone know what the premise of this series is, and how it differs from the games?

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#635: Jan 30th 2022 at 7:06:56 PM

[up]From the trailer, the main premise seems to be that humanity in this timeline actually knows something called "Halo" exists, and is trying to find it before the Covenant do (as opposed to the games, where everyone stumbles on Alpha Halo by accident and even Cortana only knew that there was something important at those coordinates). Otherwise, I think the biggest difference known so far is that Blue Team seemingly doesn't exist in this timeline; Chief's a part of "Silver Team" instead, which is made up of mostly original Spartans outside of John himself. Besides that, other differences seem to be that (book spoilers) the Rubble survives the events of Halo: The Cole Protocol (and its inhabitants don't rejoin the UNSC), Soren-066 actually escapes Reach after the events of "Pariah" (and becomes a pirate), and the overall context behind Cortana's initial team-up with Chief (they're apparently working together well before the Covenant ever find Reach in this timeline). Also, there's a Covie-raised human apparently working for the High Prophets themselves.

Edited by UmbrellasWereAwesome on Jan 30th 2022 at 8:11:01 PM

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#636: Jan 30th 2022 at 8:10:18 PM

Yeah originally Mc Elhone was supposed to do the voice of Cortana and play Dr. Halsey (which makes sense, of course), but they switched to Taylor due to problems in post-production cause of Covid.

EmeraldSource Since: Jan, 2021
#637: Jan 30th 2022 at 11:05:58 PM

The original game was In Medias Res and very isolated to the greater conflict. Halo: The Fall of Reach was a good prequel book filling in the context and world building, but a lot of the expanded universe went on to make it a more cohesive whole. The big reveal of Halo Reach was showing that Cortana has had active contact with a Forerunner artifact on Reach and that was what lead them to Alpha Halo, which goes against the content of "Fall of Reach" but feels more consistent with the setting. Considering the early stories had things like Elites being first encountered at Reach, it's hard to get too riled up over timeline and certain narrative issues.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#638: Feb 5th 2022 at 6:28:30 AM

I wonder, if somebody made a sword of Forerunner metal, would it stand up to an Energy Sword?

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#639: Feb 5th 2022 at 6:56:01 AM

Given that Forerunner armor doesn’t withstand it, I’d venture no.

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#640: Feb 15th 2022 at 1:52:46 PM

The ViacomCBS Investor Event just announced Season Two ordered for the Halo live action series.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#641: Feb 15th 2022 at 3:22:31 PM

Dang, they're that confident in it?

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#642: Feb 24th 2022 at 2:41:28 PM

A question about the Longsword and the Shortsword. The Longsword is substantially larger than the Shortsword, which is what you'd expect given the names, but the Shortsword is a bomber, while the Longsword is, I think, an interceptor. Aren't bombers typically larger than interceptors in real life? You know, so they can hold all the ordinance? And wouldn't something made for ship-to-ship combat like the Longsword be quick and agile? It just seems weird to me that the interceptor is larger than the bomber. Am I missing something? Does the Longsword have another role that I'm not understanding?

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#643: Feb 24th 2022 at 2:52:38 PM

The Longsword is really more of a multirole craft. We even see it carry out bombings in Halo 3.

My assumption is the Shortsword is smaller because an accurate bomber size would cause the craft to fill the entire screen (even if only for a second, it could still be distracting.) Much like how the Scarab is a lot smaller than it is in other games.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#644: Feb 24th 2022 at 3:26:38 PM

Is the fact that the Longsword can also be used in space, while the Shortsword is in-atmosphere only, a factor?

Edit: I'm thinking back to the effort required to launch the Sabre into space in Reach. They had to basically strap the Sabre to a rocket, so if the Longsword is capable of leaving a planet's atmosphere, like we saw at the end of the original Halo, having the engines to do that might be the reason why it's so large.

Edited by WillKeaton on Feb 24th 2022 at 4:54:11 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#646: Apr 26th 2022 at 10:34:47 AM

Okay, I finally got around to playing around with HALO INFINITE and once I turned off the Linear Navigation mode and could actually use the interface (why is that set to default?), I had a lot of fun with it. I am also someone who is back and forth of my opinion on the story because I absolutely love it and also feel bad for the developers.

Because this is the second time it feels like they had to ditch the entirety of their story plans (Didact and Cortana) to having them dealt with off screen. However, the way they did trash their in-story actually felt good and poignant.

  • The Weapon dealing with Original Recipe Cortana's going crazy.
  • Cortana actually going full Tarkin was a legitimate way of making her terrifying.
  • The Spartan IV's all being wiped out felt meaningful even though a lot of fans (myself included) thought they were lame rip-offs even in universe.
  • The Ark of Infinity being destroyed actually invoked some feeling even if I kind of hope Lansky and Palmer both went down with it.

It felt very back to basics but in a way that acknowledged what came before. The problem being Back to Basics is, "Back to fighting the Not-Covenant because that's who we wanted in the first place."

I mean it's great but it's kind of a definite, "You tried something new and the new just wasn't as good."

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Apr 26th 2022 at 10:35:57 AM

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#647: Apr 26th 2022 at 5:43:48 PM

That's like the main flaw of 343's Halo games. There's no unified plotline, and it seems like between games everything is thrown out for no reason.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#648: Apr 26th 2022 at 5:57:56 PM

1, 2 and 3 definitely have some similar jumpy problems - 1 ends with Chief in space and 2 starts with him back on Earth; 2 ends with... basically 3/4 of a game, then 3 starts with Chief falling out of the sky back onto Earth; etc... but regardless of all that it still feels coherent enough, and it does more or less match up.

Then with 4, 5, and Infinite, you have to have read an impenetrable book series to know who the villain in 4 is; everything 5 tried was so disliked it almost got discontinuitied; and Infinite's entire plotline is figuring out how they discontinuitied 5.

It's been fun.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#649: Apr 26th 2022 at 6:27:10 PM

That's like the main flaw of 343's Halo games. There's no unified plotline, and it seems like between games everything is thrown out for no reason.

Basically, they're a bit gun shy and if the plotline isn't accepted, they don't go forward. Which makes sense as it is a billion dollar franchise.

The Didact was actually pretty okay and I liked Jul'Adama, I just had almost no interaction with the latter before POOF he was killed by Locke. Who is Locke? The protagonist of a cheap movie.

Halo 5? Well, that got MUCH MUCH WORSE for villifying everyone's waifu after a pretty well-received death scene. I think someone claimed it was "Aerith comes back as the villain in Final Fantasy 7.5."

So it's basically the Reboot Star Wars except Rise of the Skywalker was actually good.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#650: Apr 27th 2022 at 5:14:30 PM

Some random Cortana thoughts I had:

Why did Cortana turn evil? We'll never know but probably a combination of rampancy and the Forerunner knowledge driving her nuts with delusions of godhood. Certainly, it seems to have that effect on thing.

But why did she turn good again? Well, we're left with many questions about that at the end but I have a theory.

I feel like we're meant to essentially see this as an apology for Halo 5 turning her evil in the first place. She died for humanity in Halo 4 and that is her "true" ending before her unholy Forerunner resurrection post-Rampancy. But if you need a motivation for why Cortana repented, I imagine it's because she FAILED. Cortana bet everything on being the ultimate intelligence who would lead humanity to paradise and she lost to a fucking BRUTE. A brute warlord no less. One that almost got Master Chief killed and did utterly get the UNSC defeated as well as the Halo captured.

In effect, Cortana's failure gave her a much needed check on her situation as she realized that if she wasn't omniscient and all-powerful all of her decisions based on the premise, "I can do no wrong because it all will work out in the end" come into sharp contrast.

This seems like a cheat because so few villains in any media actually take a moment to realize they've utterly screwed the pooch toward the end but I think the game does a decent job of showing what an utter disaster Cortana's 10,000 Year Reign was an utter shitshow. She blows up the planet of the Brutes and that just makes them MORE pissed off (no kidding, really), the UNSC gets its HQ blown up and IT tries harder, and then she loses control of the Halo which means she's defeated militarily after a very short time.

So I have no idea that a being that has trillions of computational cycles per second can analyze the data and realize, "I have utterly dun fucked up."

Its just its too late to fix anything.

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