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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#1: Oct 19th 2011 at 1:05:57 PM

Particularly when phantom wicks had originated through It Just Bugs Me and any Crowning Moment section. I wonder if there is any way to address the issue with phantom wicks resulting through that (I've observed that while cleaning up wicks for the Deus Ex entries).

edited 19th Oct '11 1:07:11 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#2: Oct 19th 2011 at 2:06:25 PM

There is, the mods make a page, then cut it. Phantom wiks occur when a page gets blanked in a nonstandard way. Personally, I think a better habit to get into would be to blank a page before cutting it.

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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Oct 19th 2011 at 2:19:46 PM

Actually, Fast Eddie has to go in an clean the old JBM and Crowning moments wicks from the database end, due to the way those pages were unmade.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#5: Oct 21st 2011 at 7:18:21 AM

Yeah, that's what I meant. Old userpages are no problem, but IJBM's and Crowning Moments are a bitch to work around when it comes to phantom wicks.

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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Oct 21st 2011 at 7:47:21 AM

I'll check with Eddie and see if there a way to make it easier for all concerned to kill those dead namespace phantoms.

And when you kill one on a previously-cut troper page, don't forget to cutlist the page afterward. The null edit that kills the phantom also recreates the page.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#7: Oct 21st 2011 at 8:07:45 AM

I zapped Just Bugs Me and Crowning* from the wick-finder. Seems like there are other dead namespaces, but I'm not recalling what they are right now.

edited 21st Oct '11 8:08:15 AM by FastEddie

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TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#8: Oct 21st 2011 at 8:23:18 AM

[up]Do we have permission to edit the ones we can and put them on the cutlist, or should we leave that to the mods? I was told off for it by Camacan because it fills up untyped pages with empty pages, although we could set them all as subpages to get away from that problem.

edited 21st Oct '11 8:24:48 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#10: Oct 21st 2011 at 8:37:46 AM

Edit the ones you can find and cutlist them. Camacan wasn't aware of what was going on when he scolded you. Now he is. It wouldn't hurt to drop him a PM if you do a whole raft of them at once, though.

^^ And thank you so much, Eddie. That will make the big wick clean-ups much easier.

edited 21st Oct '11 8:38:21 AM by Madrugada

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#11: Oct 21st 2011 at 8:47:10 AM

What about the suggestion to set them as subpages? (a sort of catch-all for something that isn't anything else.) Which would get round the thing he scolded me for (it wasn't for Cut Listing them, it was for the problem with untyped pages.)

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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#12: Oct 21st 2011 at 9:16:50 AM

No, just cutlist them with a reason for cutting along the lines of "Previously-cut page in Main left phantom wick to [tropename]. Null edit to kill the wick remade the page."

There's no need to set a page type for a page that the cutmasters are going to burn immediately, and when they cut it, it disappears from the "Pages needing page type" list.

He scolded you because he didn't know that the wick clean-ups were generating new pages with null edits on cut pages. That's all been cleared up out now.

edited 21st Oct '11 9:18:15 AM by Madrugada

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#13: Oct 21st 2011 at 3:14:39 PM

I Am Not Making This Up and Heartwarming Moment are two more phantom namespaces I've found.

Jeysie Diva of Virtual Death from Western Massachusetts Since: Jun, 2010
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#14: Oct 22nd 2011 at 8:28:03 AM

Yeah, it's pretty much:

TroperWorks/
Contributors/
Subjectives/
IAmNotMakingThisUp/
HeartwarmingMoment/

I've seen that I can think of off-hand.

edited 22nd Oct '11 8:28:16 AM by Jeysie

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#15: Oct 22nd 2011 at 12:53:41 PM

Also, Fetish Fuel Station Attendant.

nuclearneo577 from My computer. Since: Dec, 2009
#16: Oct 22nd 2011 at 6:48:53 PM

Adaptation Decay and Title Bin are two other ones. I'll manually delete them now.

edited 22nd Oct '11 6:50:14 PM by nuclearneo577

Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#17: Nov 3rd 2011 at 8:34:08 PM

Please always set the page type when recreating a page to get rid of a ghost wick. Between the time the page is recreated and it gets cut it clutters up the untyped pages list: without someone setting all those pages we can't see and fix the other pages that are unset and need to sorted out.

Since the pages are going to be cut at some point, I've just been setting them to "Just to for fun" rather than bother to work out the proper type.

edited 3rd Nov '11 9:46:10 PM by Camacan

EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#18: Nov 7th 2011 at 10:58:02 AM

@Jeysie: Yeah, TroperWorks in particular, seeing a way that it has been undone to a degree that I can't edit it or place it on the cutlist, even as it's still causing stubborn phantoms.

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Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#19: Dec 20th 2012 at 5:15:28 AM

I got a phantom title search hit on TroperTales.Two Eyes Good Four Eyes Bad, which can't be re-created because it's Troper Tales. What should I do?

Edit: Also, it seems phantom deleted redirects (like Twenty Five Year Old Woman) still contain the redirect text when you try to null-edit them. Is that normal?

edited 20th Dec '12 5:18:02 AM by Medinoc

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