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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#1702: Apr 29th 2022 at 12:56:56 PM

Hamil confirms he's recording new material for Skeletor

Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#1703: May 3rd 2022 at 7:41:10 AM

Anyone remember Blackstar? It was an animated series by Filmation that featured a human astronaut stranded on an alien world fighting an evil overlord; it preceded the animated He-Man by two years. Visually it resembles He-Man quite a bit (Filmation even re-used some backgrounds from Blackstar in He-man; they also reused some background animation from their earlier Flash Gordon series). Blackstar, like the original iteration of He-Man from the comics included with the action figures, carried half of a magic sword, with his nemesis in possession of the other half.

An interesting bit of trivia is that, in their original pitch, Blackstar was in fact a black man, something nixed by the network at the time (he wouldn't have been the first African-American character to lead a Saturday Morning animated series, but it still would have been pretty progressive at the time). As it was he was still Ambiguously Brown, and many fans have imagined him to be the ancestor of Filmation's later cowboys-in-space Native-American hero Brave Starr.

Edited by Robbery on May 3rd 2022 at 7:41:20 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#1704: May 3rd 2022 at 7:44:31 AM

First I'm hearing of Black Star,it's an interesting premise

Also,Bravestarr reboot when?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#1705: Jun 8th 2022 at 9:33:51 PM

And finally, we have official confirmation that the 'Revelation' team are back with a second instalment

Masters of the Universe: Revolution

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#1706: Jun 8th 2022 at 10:42:31 PM

Is it going to be a direct continuation of Revelation, a case of New Season, New Name? Or a different continuity?

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#1707: Jun 8th 2022 at 11:00:37 PM

[up] New Season, New Name

Edited by Zarius on Jun 8th 2022 at 11:01:20 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#1708: Jun 9th 2022 at 12:15:58 AM

Any news on the other He-Man show?

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#1709: Jun 9th 2022 at 12:49:44 AM

[up] Nothing so far, last I heard it's expected to wrap up with a third volume later this year

Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#1711: Jun 9th 2022 at 1:20:39 PM

I think some fans headcanon Blackstar as Afro-Native American to reconcile the initial concept with the final product. Which is fine by me.

Anyway looking forward to Revolution and especially whatever role Hordak will play after the way Revelation ended.

Speaking of Bravestarr, I really hope that series get's new iteration sometime, with a similar artstyle and tone to Young Justice or MOTU Revelations. The space western aesthetic is always classic, and it'd be a great starring role opportunity for a Native America voice actor.

In fact I found some pretty stellar updates to his and JB's design not too long ago on Artstation. Bravestarr JB McBride

Edited by Avenger09 on Jun 9th 2022 at 9:24:26 AM

DarthNoxIsCool Since: Jun, 2022
#1712: Jul 12th 2022 at 11:21:44 AM

The route they took with Evil-Lyn still doesn't convince me.

I have nothing against female anti-villains, but in the case it felt like a classic case of Females Are More Innocent.

I would like that in this new season, female antagonists appear who are not anti-villains.

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#1713: Jul 12th 2022 at 1:35:19 PM

[up]You mean the Revelations version, right? For me, destroying Preternia felt like crossing the Moral Event Horizon, so her redemption afterwards didn't feel right.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#1714: Jul 12th 2022 at 1:45:56 PM

I'd say blowing up heaven is, almost by definition, the most evil thing anyone can ever do, period. I could forgive her if she fixed it later, but she didn't. Also, if she can blow up heaven, why can't she defeat a scrawny kid and a skeleton man?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#1715: Jul 12th 2022 at 1:46:45 PM

Heaven was a meatier target?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1716: Jul 12th 2022 at 1:50:36 PM

With the caveat that she went mad from being overwhelmed by seeing so much of the entire universe. It wasn't that simple as just doing an evil act for the sake of it. She already had redeeming qualities that Skeletor didn't(and he actually kept his sanity, while keeping his obsession with He-Man/Adam).

She absolutely crossed it, but only after starting to go insane. The thing about her redemption is that she actually is realizing what she's doing is just plain wrong and wants to try and become better. They didn't have enough episodes/screentime to fully go into everything, though. It doesn't look like it's a situation that can even be fixed, so being unable to undo something that big is a huge deal. Trying to atone for it is going to take time, something that's easier to do in the next season, after they were able to stop the battle. It's not something she can just suddenly "atone for" in like 5 minutes. It's something she has to live with for the rest of her life. Of course, that doesn't mean they'll go into it in the next season, but there still wasn't time to really do much with the situation either.

Shadow?
Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#1717: Jul 12th 2022 at 2:10:21 PM

True, and she wasn't completely forgiven; she went Walking the Earth after the final battle instead of being friends with the heroes.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
DeanCole Since: Jun, 2015
#1719: Jul 20th 2022 at 2:35:24 PM

Eh. I could see how Walking the earth can seem like her getting off easy in this case.

Its not like she committeed a crime against a specific village and was exiled.She blew up heaven.And now gets to walk the earth free as a bird.The only real downsize is the average Joe's reaction to her.Unless that's explored next season.Walking the earth comes across like a slap on the rist to me

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#1720: Jul 20th 2022 at 2:51:50 PM

She has her freedom and is allowed to do whatever she wants where ever she goes.

It would feel more like a punishment if she at least lost her magic entirely and had to live the rest of her life as a weak human being.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1721: Jul 20th 2022 at 3:20:29 PM

It wasn't meant to be a punishment, that's kind of the point. That doesn't really teach a strong lesson on how to atone for one's mistakes(punishment actually doesn't teach a thing. Therapy and talking to someone to help them learn how to be better does. Which is more what the show seems to be going for). Another factor to keep in mind is that she had become friends with the heroes, which gave her some leeway in not being imprisoned. They want to see her become better too. Despite not being forgiven.

Her final actual act was resurrecting Orko for good, which does impact the total relationship of her and the heroes. They can clearly see some good or a possible attempt to atone. That factors into the overall decision.

Skeletor on the other hand? Despite everything, still acts foolish and turns on the heroes despite asking for their help and He-Man was willing to even give him power so he can be helpful. His obsession with He-Man leaves him getting his ass handed to him instead at the end. He didn't learn a thing, whereas Lyn did. That's the core point of the message overall. Teaching is far better than imprisonment and has a positive effect in helping people become better. You aren't going to get that if you view the person poorly(and He-Man even gave a speech to Skeletor, attempting to stop the foolishness without resorting to kicking his ass, a good message overall).

Shadow?
DeanCole Since: Jun, 2015
#1722: Jul 20th 2022 at 4:03:00 PM

Which would have worked better had she remained a minion of skeletor.Not a supervillainess who had committed horrible acts in her own right.

At some point,you can't expect people to satisfied with a talking to.There needs to be appropriate consequences to a persons actions.

Edited by DeanCole on Jul 20th 2022 at 4:03:25 AM

Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#1723: Jul 20th 2022 at 4:18:24 PM

Their reactions reflect their mentality's.

When Skeletor, who lives to ''cause harm'', witnessed the whole of creation he saw it as only another tool to use in his spiteful quest.

Lyn, someone whose suffered harm most of her life, saw its chaotic nature as proof that the universe was pointless and thus all the pain she and everyone else had endured was meaningless as well.

Edited by Avenger09 on Jul 20th 2022 at 12:22:10 PM

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1724: Jul 20th 2022 at 4:24:05 PM

It wouldn't have at all. By making her her own person instead of a minion, they let her make her own decisions, including realizing what she did. Right now she's on a journey to look into herself, which actually does matter a lot more than a punishment would. She can't learn things in that case, because the most important part is teaching her.

Which they did talk to her, and which is why it was effective. And no, consequences aren't "needed" to teach a lesson. This isn't something like nature or learning fire is too hot. Those are also consequences, but this is people talking to her. Never mind the thing that happened is she broke from the vastness of information, and actually needed to converse with someone to help her out. Punishment wouldn't fix a damn thing and doesn't actually give her a reason to keep as much alive as possible(and we don't even know if she could've restored Heaven. She's still new to the powers, and destroying is a lot easier than creating, after all). Heaven may be restored later for all we know. She may still get more consequences for her crimes later, after she explores her psyche better.

The big thing was ending the war already and trying to stop the hate. What she did was horrible, yes. But constantly fighting after they saved the world and rescued her from her self-destructive behavior sends a terrible message. People can't get redeemed if you never get the chance, and they clearly are trying to redeem her.

Shadow?
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#1725: Jul 20th 2022 at 10:36:09 PM

Apparently some figures were unveiled for season three of the CG He-Man at Toyark and one of them is Hordak


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