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Why the GLOBAL GUARDIANS DESERVE to be part of the SECOND DCnU WAVE!

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jeremypatterson Since: Dec, 2010
#1: Oct 6th 2011 at 7:15:23 PM

I am a fairly annoyed comic book fan that was hoping to see the Global Guardians get a decent presence in the D Cn U. (They are the only DC property I support anymore since they screwed over the Mighty Crusaders. )

But when the books came out, all of them told us that the Global Guardians have NEVER EXISTED AT ALL in the context of the D Cn U!

The only way DC will make amends to that dismal situation is either to add a GLOBAL GUARDIANS ONGOING SERIES AS PART OF THE SECOND BIG D Cn U WAVE, or SPOTLIGHT THEM IN THE PAGES OF 'DC UNIVERSE PRESENTS'!

If they DO NOT do any of these two options, I will BOYCOTT DC FOR ALL ETERNITY!

You can help my ideals by SENDING DC LETTERS TELLING THEM THAT WE WANT THE GLOBAL GUARDIANS, as they are the BEST THERE IS, the BEST THERE WAS, and the BEST THERE EVER WILL BE!

Jeremy.

Alkthash Was? Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Oct 6th 2011 at 7:45:57 PM

Okay, chill out with the ALLCAPS spam buddy. It just makes you look shouty and it has the bonus of making you easier to dismiss.

As for the Global Guardians, who exactly are they? They couldn't have been that popular since we apparently don't have a trope page for them.

SKJAM Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#3: Oct 6th 2011 at 8:59:05 PM

The Global Guardians are a spinoff of the Super Friends, as it happens.

How they came about is that back in the day, there was a Super Friends comic book that tied into the cartoon show. Since it was aimed at a more literate audience than the TV version, it was actually pretty good. At one point there's a global threat requiring the Super Friends to split up, but to bolster their numbers, they teamed with a never before mentioned international superteam, the Global Guardians.

They popped up a couple of times more in Super Friends, then Post-Crisis On Infinite Earths, the team was brought into the main DC Universe. Green Flame and Icemaiden were co-opted for the Justice League under the names Fire and Ice, and the rest of the team made appearances various places, mostly to be Worfed.

Eventually, most of the team was killed or heel turned, only to be reformed two or three times. Last few years, it's pretty much been ignored.

Canondorf Since: Sep, 2009
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#5: Oct 6th 2011 at 9:07:00 PM

[up] It's not satire. Patterson always acts like that.

Trust me, I've known him for years in the Comic Book Resources forums.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#6: Oct 7th 2011 at 5:51:30 AM

  1. This post is hilarious. I salute you caps-based enthusiasm.

  2. I somehow doubt that a group who hasn't their own comic (About them, as a group) in... decades? ... is at the forefront of DC's mind. Point is, don't get your hopes up.

Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Oct 7th 2011 at 9:11:24 AM

Actually, the Global Guardians didn't form a team until they guest-starred (with Superman) in an issue of DC Comics Presents; this was also their first canonical appearance in the DC Universe.

Oh, and Green Flame was originally Furia Verde (Green Fury), the embodiment of the Amazon Jungle, and had more powers than just the facsimile Human Torch she was made into years later. But all that was Pre Crisis.

Some of the heroes, like the Israeli Seraph and the Irish Jack O' Lantern, even had their own backup series in the Super Friends comic. Several of them (not just Fire and Ice) were co-opted by JLI (in fact basically they broke up the Guardians to form the JLI, a kind of dick move on DC's part, instead of just giving them their own title. The implicit message: our American heroes are more important than the rest of the world's.) Dr. Mist and Jack o' Lantern did star in the (short lived) Primal Force series.

These characters always had great potential. I hope the new JLI will use them well.

edited 7th Oct '11 9:13:03 AM by Sijo

jeremypatterson Since: Dec, 2010
#8: Oct 15th 2011 at 10:54:48 AM

Let's start a petition on Petition Online to prove DC that they should either try the Global Guardians out in their own ongoing, of featue them in DC Universe Presents !

Jeremy Aron Patterson.

Gray64 Since: Dec, 1969
#9: Oct 15th 2011 at 2:32:39 PM

[up][up] I think it was less of a "our heroes are more important than the rest of the world's" move so much as a "let's put the focus on characters our main audience is likely to be familiar with rather than some seriously obscure ones." And let's be accurate here; the Global Guardians aren't international heroes, they're characters created by Americans to represent other nations and cultures.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#10: Oct 15th 2011 at 4:15:11 PM

[up][up] So start one if its so important to you, do not try to motivate others to do it for you.

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Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Oct 15th 2011 at 6:21:23 PM

[up][up]The message the audience gets is the same: a team with several American heroes but only a few foreign ones. Plus if some need to be sacrificed for a story eg. killed to show how badass a villain is, guess which ones it will be?

And honestly, I found The Guardians a LOT more interesting than say, Guy Gardner.

edited 15th Oct '11 6:21:51 PM by Sijo

JusticeMan You complete me. from Maryland ! Since: Mar, 2011
You complete me.
#12: Oct 16th 2011 at 1:13:54 PM

The new JLI doesn't have two members from the same Nation.

Let's make a TCG!
TheoneandonlyJoseph Since: Jul, 2011
#13: Oct 16th 2011 at 1:36:21 PM

[up]Yeah, but the British member deserves to be hung drawn and quartered for so far being useless- we once ruled a third of the world and have over 2000 years of rich history and mythology, but our dc comic representative has PREHENSILE HAIR and has decided to be the teams LOAD! Where's the justice in that?

As for global guardians, meh, I suppose it would be okay, but we have JLI, whose first issue promised to add more superheroes as time went on.

JusticeMan You complete me. from Maryland ! Since: Mar, 2011
You complete me.
#14: Oct 16th 2011 at 2:30:40 PM

Dont get me started on the UK. If you're having this debate being motivated by Nationalism you have no place here. Take that to OTT.

Let's make a TCG!
TheoneandonlyJoseph Since: Jul, 2011
#15: Oct 16th 2011 at 2:42:59 PM

whoa, sorry. didnt expect anyone to take that serriously. guess thats further confimation that i havent slept enough recently. right, no more posting untill i have 12 hours of kip.

Gray64 Since: Dec, 1969
#16: Oct 16th 2011 at 2:59:51 PM

Yeah, you're forced to wonder why they went with Godiva instead of, say, the Knight and the Squire, who DC were only very recently trying to push pretty hard.

JusticeMan You complete me. from Maryland ! Since: Mar, 2011
You complete me.
#17: Oct 16th 2011 at 3:25:16 PM

They're busy in Batman Inc. and the nonpowered base is already covered by Batman.

Let's make a TCG!
Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#18: Oct 16th 2011 at 3:58:54 PM

I think when the Guardians were invented they wanted to avoid the cliche of having a Knight as the British hero (there were already several in comics eg. The Shining Knight). Also each was a counterpart to a Justice Leaguer (eg. Jack O' Lantern and Green Lantern) so maybe Godiva was Elongated Man's equivalent.

As for how she's now, I blame the same "heroines must be sexpots" attitude the New DC has been showing so far. XP

jeremypatterson Since: Dec, 2010
#19: Oct 22nd 2011 at 7:59:43 PM

DC has a thread regarding the Global Guardians in the context of the D Cn U CHECK IT OUT NOW!

edited 22nd Oct '11 10:18:47 PM by jeremypatterson

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#20: Oct 23rd 2011 at 4:16:19 AM

you are kinda aware that in the internet caps is equalized to shouting? *rubs ears*

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jeremypatterson Since: Dec, 2010
#21: Nov 7th 2011 at 9:42:49 AM

I sent another letter to the editors of DC Universe Presents, telling them that I would love to see the Global Guardians to show up in that book!

Anybody agree with me?

Jeremy.

Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#22: Nov 7th 2011 at 5:43:57 PM

The problem is that as long as they publish Justice League International they won't let the Guardians get their own series, because they took over their niche. But they could at least spotlight some of the characters.

...I'm seriously considering on making a TV Tropes page for the team. Should I? Opinions welcome.

JusticeMan You complete me. from Maryland ! Since: Mar, 2011
You complete me.
#23: Nov 7th 2011 at 6:56:28 PM

Works are free Sij, that's Troper 101.

Let's make a TCG!
Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#24: Nov 8th 2011 at 4:20:02 PM

JM, if you check my Troper page you might see that I have a bit of experience making pages here.

The thing is, the Global Guardians never actually had their own series, so I'm not sure if it would be justified. (Then again, some villains have their own pages too.)

JusticeMan You complete me. from Maryland ! Since: Mar, 2011
You complete me.
#25: Nov 8th 2011 at 6:17:38 PM

I've yet to see a work page cut, i assumed it would be good opt just sue those Villain pages as precedent.

Let's make a TCG!

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