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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#276: Feb 4th 2016 at 9:48:25 AM

Yeah when someone else does the same generic format as you you win by doing it better, not by throwing lawyers at them. It'd be like if Burger King sued Mc Donalds out of existence instead of competing with them and thus allowing them and the burger based industry as a whole to grow and prosper.

edited 4th Feb '16 9:48:57 AM by Silasw

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#277: Feb 4th 2016 at 9:57:04 AM

But if I try to build a fast food franchise by plagiarizing Burger King's marketing, they'll have a legitimate infringement claim.

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#278: Feb 4th 2016 at 10:08:31 AM

But is the basic react/Q&A/activity format closer to Burger King marketing, or to a news anchor setting on a desk with a news image displayed next to him/her and some descriptive text below? (EDIT: In terms of generic-ness, I mean) And why am I arguing about the IP implications of a format that I'm not even that big a fan of for the most part?note 

Also, to touch on an already settled issue, Burger King has the benefit of having its name include something not inherent to the concept of "meat patty sandwich".

edited 4th Feb '16 10:10:39 AM by UmbrellasWereAwesome

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#279: Feb 4th 2016 at 10:56:57 AM

@South Korean React: Hmmm... So that's what a similar video to theirs look like. I think if the creators improved their content based on its own specificities, it would become different enough (e.g.: non-Korean-speaking people would focus on the subtitles, meaning that you probably don't want much more information, especially spread all around the screen).

Although, I'd say the video is similar to FB's, but it isn't that similar in my opinion. Maybe I do agree with the assertion that their format is too generic for them to own. Or maybe it's a disagreement with the current state of copyright, trademark and fair use (which I don't have an informed opinion on). Or maybe with more examples I'd agree that this is too similar.

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#280: Feb 4th 2016 at 11:19:06 AM

When Conan O'Brien moved from NBC to TBS, I don't think he changed his show's format that much. I guess NBC owns the recurring comedy sketch characters and the show's name, but other than that, there isn't that big a difference. If someone had copyrighted the late night talk show format, that couldn't have happen.

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#281: Feb 4th 2016 at 11:57:57 AM

I think we're moving so far away from the Fine Bros, React, or reaction videos in general as to be on a different planet.

I'd prefer we stay on this planet, thank you very much. tongue

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#282: Feb 4th 2016 at 6:24:07 PM

To get back on track, here's Mundane Matt's video about the backlash. At least he's fair with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R4kGjl9pnw

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#283: Feb 4th 2016 at 6:57:33 PM

[up] I can't help but be amused by the comments and how baffled they are that you can claim no ill intent and still find say what they did was shitty. Beacuse God forbid someone actually try to take a moderate stance to things.

I haven't watched the video, I don't know if he's genuinely being hypocritical or not. This is just one of my Berserk Buttons, one that keeps getting pressed. Society has conditioned us to jump to a side as quickly as possible and never let go. Depending on which side you take standing your ground is either being virtuous or being stubborn, changing your mind is either seeing the light or falling into darkness, and staying in the middle is either being weak-willed or being an opportunist.

I want to emphasize that I'm not trying to make any defenses here. I'm just not going to blindly jump on the bandwagon....especially when that bandwagon seems to be doing nothing but circle-jerking Holocaust jokes.

edited 4th Feb '16 6:57:48 PM by Watchtower

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#284: Feb 4th 2016 at 6:59:48 PM

Holocaust jokes...because the Fine Bros are Jewish...

Ha ha ha.

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#285: Feb 4th 2016 at 8:25:50 PM

[up]x2 God, if I learned anything reading the comments for that video, it's that all this drama is still a open wound and it's necroting with trolls and anti-semitism. Guess VGA's words about leaving them be were completely ignored by some people.

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#286: Feb 4th 2016 at 10:10:39 PM

But if I try to build a fast food franchise by plagiarizing Burger King's marketing, they'll have a legitimate infringement claim.

"Come to Burger Prince, home of the Whipper!"

If anybody started up a channel called The Fine Moes' and did reacts videos, Fine Bros would have a strong case and I'd back them.

But the same way Burger King doesn't trademark the Burger part of their name or the idea of burgers, the Fine Bros shouldn't be tradmarking the word "Reacts" or the idea of reaction videos, they especially shouldn't be getting the most broad reaching and all encompassing trademark that they can.

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#287: Feb 5th 2016 at 2:04:29 AM

[up]Exactly. They were chancing their arms and got found out, as they say over here. Hell mend them.

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#288: Feb 5th 2016 at 10:34:14 PM

Speaking of anti-semitism, I got a good pun out of some the comment wherein someone responded to, "Fuck these Jews," with "Well, fuck jew too."

And that's hilarious.

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#289: Feb 10th 2016 at 7:32:04 PM

Dang it, this whole vitriolic eruption ruined my enjoyment of their videos.

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#290: Feb 11th 2016 at 4:43:53 AM

[up] *sigh* Yeah, I know what you mean. Even though the videos they are airing now were probably recorded before the shit hit the fan, it seems like a Dork Age is coming. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if some reactors, especially the teens, stop appearing in their videos. sad

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#291: Feb 23rd 2016 at 10:45:39 AM
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#292: Feb 23rd 2016 at 11:01:38 AM

... what?

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#293: Feb 23rd 2016 at 12:04:42 PM

discriminates people by personality, not by race.

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#294: Feb 23rd 2016 at 3:33:02 PM

Teens React to Anitta (Brazilian Pop Star)

I don't listen to her songs, so I myself had never watched these two music videos of her. Actually after googling for a while none of the songs I thought were from her actually are (besides the ones they mention in the video, of course), and although I remember watching a music video with her at least once I appear to be misremembering because none of them seem familiar. I mean, if I hear one of her songs playing I might realize I know it out of hearing when people randomly play it around me, but that's it. Also apparently she made a tour in Japan? I'm always baffled when I discover [living Brazilian musician] is popular in [another country].

Eric: "I like how universal twerking is." Hey, we Brazilians were twerking before twerking was even a word tongue

Elle: "A lot different than the music videos on Kids React." Pfff, this made me chuckle [lol]

Eric: "See, it's unfair, 'cause girls get all these really cool, fun giant plastic bubble dresses, and then guys it's like, oh, he gets a tank top."

Alix (thorought the video): She seems like a sex-negative feminist (and I mean this as a plain statement).

At 4:50 there's a small translation mistake they addressed but you might not notice it if you're in mobile.

Controversy: Well, I don't follow celebrity news in the first place, even less am I a fan of Anitta, so I have never heard of these. However, hair straightening has been something black movements have been fighting, here on Brazil at least. I'm not sure how one can whiten one's skin, except maybe lightning tricks in videos and photoshoots? I think the teens with the best responses to this were Nora and Moises.

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#295: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:51:15 AM

There's all sorts of creams and such that can supposedly lighten one's skin. I've heard horror stories about black women feeling so desperate about it that they use bleach. So yeah, it's kind of a serious issue.

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#296: Feb 25th 2016 at 6:14:57 AM

Now I remember a book I read during primary education about a black boy who wanted to find a radio host to ask him how Michael Jackson whitened his own skin (although it never got that creepy as a children's book).

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#297: Feb 25th 2016 at 7:54:23 AM

Relevant.

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#298: Feb 25th 2016 at 11:39:46 AM

I'm not sure I understand what's going on that strip tongue

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#299: Feb 26th 2016 at 9:30:25 PM

[up]Long story short, East Asia is really into fair skin (and this preference was already prevalent long before any major contact with Europe was ever made).

edited 26th Feb '16 9:31:49 PM by UmbrellasWereAwesome

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#300: Feb 28th 2016 at 11:13:29 AM

Oh, so those two girls are Asians. I get it now.


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