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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#1: Sep 28th 2011 at 7:15:24 AM

Just what it says on the tin: The scale in Apocalypse How has been reworked, examples and wicks need to be corrected to use the new scale.

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#2: Sep 28th 2011 at 11:27:51 AM

It has? I don't see the changes on the main article. Or is that what was decided on? It appeared that the TRS article was ongoing, but I wasn't following it avidly.

edited 28th Sep '11 11:28:29 AM by Fighteer

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#3: Sep 28th 2011 at 12:00:26 PM

I thought the new scales had been put on the Main page. They hadn't been. They are now. The old scales are on the discussion page for reference.

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#5: Sep 28th 2011 at 12:44:39 PM

And we figured that simply splitting into subpages by media would work best, considering how many possible classification combinations there are (48, unless my math has utterly failed me, although some of them are nonsensical, like Regional/Physical Annihilation or Multiversal/Species Extinction).

But yeah, huge.

edited 28th Sep '11 12:45:11 PM by Madrugada

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#7: Sep 30th 2011 at 9:51:25 AM

Crap. I thought the ones that were up when the first thread post was made were the revised ones, and did some editing accordingly.

Ugh, now things are probably all screwed up, and I don't have the time to change stuff at the moment. sad

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#8: Sep 30th 2011 at 1:27:02 PM

Okay, it's Friday, and I'm only mildly sleepy, I can start on sorting into medium pages, and modifying them to list the stuff right.

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#9: Jan 25th 2012 at 10:45:45 AM

Bump. Anyone have any updates to share?

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Atalan Since: Feb, 2011
#10: Feb 2nd 2012 at 4:43:12 AM

I've just been looking at the wicks for this, since I discovered the reworking of the scale. I'm starting to do some cleanup on it but I wondered about the main page and the subpages - I would be happy to sit down and laboriously reclassify everything by media type, but I'm not too confident on the technical side of creating subpages (or using folders?). I also don't know if Deboss has done any work on it - the main page hasn't changed but it would be silly to replicate the sorting if Deboss is doing it in a sandbox mode or something that I don't know about.

Edit: Found the sandbox page (Apocalypse How), there has indeed been some work done on it. I'll start checking whether all the examples have been done yet and carry on if not.

edited 2nd Feb '12 4:59:03 AM by Atalan

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#11: Feb 9th 2012 at 4:14:10 AM

Progress update - I am in the middle of the job of resorting examples. I have reorganised everything by genre, alphabetized them, and am now going through example by example to combine duplicates and re-classify everything. I'm doing all this in text files for now so as not to leave the page missing examples or in a half finished state. I'm trying not to cut anything out unless it's honestly a duplicate, although I am trimming for natter as I go.

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#12: May 24th 2012 at 5:24:30 PM

I made a thread in the TRS about the exact same issue as this thread, and was pointed here (sort of).

So did this special effort ever get anywhere? If not, then I advocate starting this up again.

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#13: Jun 5th 2012 at 8:28:22 AM

Looking at the page, it looks like the examples have been reorganised in the subpages, have they not?

I'll take a stab at the wicks.

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#14: Jun 16th 2012 at 4:49:23 AM

Apocalypse How A wicks have been sorted.

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#15: Jun 16th 2012 at 7:57:40 AM

I knew there was something to do... I'll get the Posleen War Series stuff straightened out after Legend Of Korra.

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#16: Sep 22nd 2012 at 6:57:43 AM

I don't get how the new classification works. It seems there are huge gaps between the severity classifications. I tried to modify the article on Iji to have it reflect the new classification for the Alpha Strike, but ran into problems; it's not class 2, because the Alpha Strike affects all life equally; it's not class 3 either because, again, it affects all life and has absolutely nothing to do with separate species whatsoever; finally the low-powered version is not class 4 either because there are survivors, the human ones of which have been reduced to pre-industrial/agricultural society (which is class 2). Maybe the descriptions of the classes are just badly worded, and "Species extinction" should be "Nearly all life of all species or at least one dominant species is destroyed", in which case the low-powered Alpha Strike would fit in "Planetary/Class 3"

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#17: Jan 30th 2013 at 10:34:09 PM

Where are we at with this?

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#18: Jan 31st 2013 at 1:50:28 AM

I got through A and partway through B, but it's too big of a task because it needs huge discussion pulling. Moving this to short term.

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#19: Feb 15th 2013 at 4:27:08 PM

Might it be worth renaming the subpages? I can't help but feel that the actual names of the pages may be contributing to misuse.

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SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#20: Sep 12th 2016 at 11:16:04 PM

Well, the new classification has existed for five years and virtually every sub-page is pretty much still as they stood around 2010. Anyone else think this is in sore need of a cleanup?

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#22: Sep 13th 2016 at 11:08:08 AM

To get the ball rolling, I believe that the best way to restructure Apocalypse How is for each page to be replaced by the scale (i.e Regional, etc. all the way on to Omniverse, with each folder in the new pages being devoted to the different levels (Societal Disruption all the way to Metaphysical Annihilation). Now obviously, there won't be all severity levels in all pages, and some relatively close in scale (e.g. Local, City and Regional) will have to be merged together, but this would be far better than how it stands now. Any other suggestions?

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#23: Sep 14th 2016 at 1:12:53 AM

I would propose that currently empty severity levels within each scale subpage should still get their own folders, if only to remind people that they exist and that editors are welcome to search for and add appropiate examples.

edited 14th Sep '16 1:13:07 AM by MarqFJA

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