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TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
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#1226: Feb 11th 2020 at 9:40:44 PM

Did Ryuk learn about the rules before he ended his contract with Minoru or after? I can't quite recall.

After. He was given the summons to go meet with the Shinigami King at the earliest popular moment, which was only after Minoru made him promise to fuck off and never make contact again.

Also, I was reading through the Death Note rules and noticed one that might help explain why the Shinigami King was so pissed about the situation:

How to Use It: XVIV, Chapter 29: Weapon, Rules XIX

It is prerequisite for the Death Note used in the human world that a living god of death makes sure that the humans in the human world use it.

Basically, Ryuk was breaking (or at least pushing) Da Rulez by letting Minoru run his auction without actually using the note.

Another interesting thing is Rule 46:

How to Use It: XLVI, Chapter 70: Tremble, Rules XLVI

There are laws in the world of gods of death. If a god of death should break the law, there are 9 levels of severity starting at Level 8 and going up to Level 1 plus the Extreme Level. For severity levels above 3 the god of death will be killed after being punished.

Edited by TheAirman on Feb 11th 2020 at 11:43:01 AM

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#1227: Feb 11th 2020 at 9:51:58 PM

so Ryuk might be screwed like the owner of the first Death Note?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1228: Feb 11th 2020 at 9:52:40 PM

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Well fuck. So if you have a Death Note, you have to use it huh?

So if Minoru had actually just killed someone, would he have survived his little plan?

That's a sad thought...and a strange rule.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Feb 11th 2020 at 10:55:19 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1229: Feb 11th 2020 at 9:53:50 PM

Remember that the point of a Death Note is to kill people. It fits with the other rule that punishes Shinigami using it to save lives.

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#1230: Feb 11th 2020 at 9:54:29 PM

What the fuck is the point of a sword if you don’t cut someone with it?

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#1231: Feb 11th 2020 at 10:08:33 PM

[up][up][up]No. He was using it, just in a different way you could argue. Plus that is a rule on the Death God's part. If the Death Note is in the Human world for whatever reason the Death God has to make sure it's actually being used. The person does not actually have to be use it.

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#1232: Feb 11th 2020 at 10:20:09 PM

Kids, say no to Death Notes. If a shinigami offers you a Death Note, you say, β€œno, thank you.”

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#1233: Feb 11th 2020 at 10:30:50 PM

"Though you should offer them an apple as a parting gift so your name isn't the next one they write."

Edited by Cross on Feb 11th 2020 at 1:33:58 PM

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#1234: Feb 11th 2020 at 11:17:57 PM

Eat the Death Note to gain its power is more appealing by the second.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1235: Feb 11th 2020 at 11:58:03 PM

@ M84: The smart thing to do is to expose the truth of the Death Note so society can work to stop them from ever being used and prevent it from killing more people. Or bury the Death Note deep in concrete so nobody can use it

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#1236: Feb 12th 2020 at 12:05:11 AM

The issue is the source of the problem isn’t even the Death Note, it’s Ryuk.

He’s the one constantly bringing it to the human world & there’s nothing that can actually stop him unless he somehow breaks a Shingami rule.

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#1237: Feb 12th 2020 at 12:55:00 AM

New rule: Giving away Death Notes for shit and giggles is forbidden under penalty of no more apples.

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#1238: Feb 12th 2020 at 12:56:26 AM

Can we just appreciate that a high school student with no special talents managed to think up and execute a plan so perfectly that Near, currently the greatest detective alive, has to admit defeat?

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#1239: Feb 12th 2020 at 2:03:56 PM

Really, the only reason he "lost" is because the Shinigami King said "fuck you bitch, I make the rules". Otherwise his plan was pretty much perfect.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1240: Feb 12th 2020 at 8:40:38 PM

The fact the King made the rules make me think he's genuinely evil and wants the Death Notes to only be used negatively

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1241: Feb 12th 2020 at 8:46:25 PM

There are some standards, in that the Note can't target someone who is less than 780 days old or someone who is more than 124 years old.

But overall, the King wants the Notes and the Shinigami by extension to focus on bringing death. Hence why Shinigami die if they use their Notes deliberately to save human lives, though the same rule isn't in effect for human users.

Edited by M84 on Feb 13th 2020 at 12:47:30 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#1242: Feb 12th 2020 at 8:47:20 PM

They are like bees.

They gotta naturally sting people.

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#1243: Feb 12th 2020 at 8:48:07 PM

They're Killer Bees rather than regular bees, because plenty of docile and friendly bees exist.

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#1244: Feb 12th 2020 at 10:09:21 PM

[up][up][up] Is that a rule, or just a natural way that Shinigami function? I thought it was a big deal that Rem was the only one who knew how to kill a Shinigami, and even then just because she happened to witness it.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1245: Feb 12th 2020 at 10:16:57 PM

It's one of the rules.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1246: Feb 12th 2020 at 10:39:17 PM

Exactly. This is why I think the Shinigami King is either literally death or evil; because the only thing he wants his Shinigami and notepads to be used for is death. He does at least have standards like no writing down people under 780 days, but much like the Death in Final Destination he comes off as evil

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#1247: Feb 12th 2020 at 10:40:09 PM

Shinigami means "Death God".

They literally are death. So by their very nature as death they have to cause....... well death.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 12th 2020 at 10:40:51 AM

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#1248: Feb 12th 2020 at 10:53:13 PM

Yeah, the death note is not a tool of justice or to save life, is too kill, whatever role the shinigami have is irrelevant, it have to kill so it does.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1249: Feb 12th 2020 at 10:56:29 PM

It seems like the Shinigami King ultimately wants people to respect death. Which is probably why he didn't approve of a Death Note being sold off.

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32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#1250: Feb 12th 2020 at 11:15:10 PM

I wonder if that 124 Year rule is just a way to make Shinigami immune to the Death Note without making it obvious.

I didn't see a rule specifically forbidding it while checking the rules quickly.

So maybe that was the minimum age of any Shinigami when that rule was created?

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