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#101: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:04:07 AM

That idea was never founded in anything anyway. Lore says the Dutchman needs a captain, Will is now that captain, he will remain so until someone stabs his heart and becomes captain in his stead, but he can walk on land once every ten years. That stinger was his once every ten years. The idea that he was somehow absolved of captaining the Dutchman was always absurd and had no basis in anything we were shown in the film anyway.

Functionally, Will's dead. More than that, he's the Grim Reaper now. You don't get to retire from that and flip your eternal responsibility the bird when it becomes convenient. Trying to do so is what made Davy Jones what he is.

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#102: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:55:31 PM

The confusion is understandable, since two supplementary sources for AWE gave completely contradictory answers on his fate. One said Elizabeth not cheating on him like Calypso did freed him during the stinger, another said the stinger was just his one day on land.

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#103: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:59:45 PM

[up] In a case such as that, I'm inclined to disregard the one that does not align with the lore established by the films.

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#104: Apr 1st 2017 at 10:34:28 PM

In addition to whether he's been freed or not, there's also the question of why he's all sea-creature-y now like Jones was. It's definitely explicit that as long as he did his job nothing like that would happen to him, the Dutchman or his crew.

My guess is, knowing Will, it's all tied into why his son is apparently on the lam in the first place. Like, maybe someone attacked the kid and Elizabeth, and Will went AWOL to save them like the consummate hero he is, but the end result was Will was punished in some way, his son was left not knowing his father, and... um... do we know what happened to Elizabeth? Cause I swear, if she died offscreen...

edited 1st Apr '17 10:35:04 PM by KnownUnknown

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#105: Apr 1st 2017 at 10:44:10 PM

Unless otherwise stated I'm going to assume she's busy doing Pirate King stuff.

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#106: Apr 2nd 2017 at 1:18:51 PM

Last I heard Kira Knightly was negotiating a staring role in Pirates 6

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#107: Apr 4th 2017 at 9:07:12 PM

So it just came upon me that Salazar and the crew of the Silent Mary are undead navy men, while Will and the crew of the Flying Dutchman are undead pirates.

Could it be that we're going to see an Inter-Service Rivalry between two walking personifications of Death? It makes Salazar's otherwise corny threat that "death will come straight to him!" a lot more meaningful if he were actually referring to himself in the third person, while also explaining why the undead Spaniards possess supernatural abilities such as walking through walls that Will and the Flying Dutchmen don't even have. The Silent Mary's own name also has explicit religious connotations.

wild mass guessThe Flying Dutchman's job is to collect the souls of those who die at sea. The Silent Mary's job is to put to death those who have eluded the former for too long. wild mass guess

edited 4th Apr '17 9:07:39 PM by FluffyMcChicken

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#108: Apr 4th 2017 at 9:12:17 PM

All I know is that Jack needs to stop pissing off the undead. tongue

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#109: Apr 4th 2017 at 9:14:19 PM

Go away, Salazar. Come back when you're LeChuck.

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#111: Apr 19th 2017 at 3:03:03 AM

...I can't tell if that was an intentional reveal or a spoiler that slipped through the net.

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#112: Apr 19th 2017 at 4:17:49 PM

Well it was announced a while back that they were filming a cameo, and that they were negotiating a staring role in the sixth film, so I don't think this is even news at this point.

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#113: Apr 19th 2017 at 4:20:39 PM

Yeah, I can't quite place exactly why but I feel like we already knew this.

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#114: Apr 28th 2017 at 10:08:28 AM

so why does this film have a different name in the uk?

a trailer played before guardians 2. Its called Salazars revenge here

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#115: Apr 29th 2017 at 4:21:08 PM

It's called Dead Men Tell No Tales in US and Japan only. Don't know why since Salazar's Revenge is so lame.

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#116: Apr 30th 2017 at 10:20:16 AM

I wonder if this one will open with a character singing? It struck me just yesterday that all three of the original trilogy did, though I haven't seen On Stranger Tides.

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#117: Apr 30th 2017 at 11:07:05 AM

OST doesn't. But it still has a plot relavent song within it. I hope that stays a Once an Episode part of the franchise.

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#118: May 15th 2017 at 5:08:59 PM

The sheer amount of irony on display is absolutely amazing but, yeah. Dead Men is currently being held for ransom by, well. Pirates.

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#119: May 15th 2017 at 5:14:20 PM

Well shit.

In other news, Paul Mc Cartney is gonna make an appearance in the film. First Keith Richards, now him, when are we getting another member of an important 60's British Invasion act?

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#120: May 17th 2017 at 11:34:17 PM

The first thing I thought of when I heard that was how the Beatles couldn't do Jungle Book (due to scheduling conflict, I think), way back when fifty years ago, but now things are full circle.

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#122: May 22nd 2017 at 3:38:34 PM

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That's a shame.

So funny thing: I'm watching At Worlds End right now. It came out in 2007.

That's especially notable since if you recall, 10 years was Will's tenure as Captain of the Flying Dutchman was supposed to be in-universe and I understand both he and Elizabeth are set to come back for this one.

Gonna be interesting to see how that turned out.

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#123: May 22nd 2017 at 3:45:56 PM

As the fourth installment of a popcorn pirate series that's always tried a bit too hard to be "cool," I was always expecting this movie to not do so well critically.

I'm still optimistic about it being pretty good, though. Entertaining, at least.

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#124: May 22nd 2017 at 3:47:52 PM

Fifth installment, actually. At the very least it'll make good popcorn entertainment.

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#125: May 22nd 2017 at 3:52:04 PM

I never truly understood why people despised In Stranger Tides. It has far worse cinematography than Dead Man's Chest and At World's end but it's a return to Curse's "fun swashbuckling film" vibe. It's pure popcorn entertainment and it's pretty fun.

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