You don't need to use Freud, you're screwed over enough by having him associated with you.
At least, although terrible at economics, Marx was not a bad sociologist... mostly.
I am now known as Flyboy.Experimental psychology is still awful empirical. data data data
Because he was naive. He's the recognized pioneer of what we call "social-conflict" sociology, i.e. "society is a field of interaction that generates social inequality and conflict."
In this, he was mostly correct. At the very least, he was more correct than the structural-functionalists. However, his predictions on the reactions to this were... terrible. Absolutely terrible.
I am now known as Flyboy.@USAF Well thats hardly fair now is it. We don't condemn chemists for believing that there were only four elements or biologists for thinking that the heart was the centre of human thoughts and emotions.
Edit: No one is saying Freud is bad because he did coke, we're saying that Freud is bad because none of his theories can be objectively tested.
edited 25th Sep '11 2:50:12 PM by whaleofyournightmare
Dutch LesbianMaking fun of psychology for Freud is just amusing.
Oh, why do I make fun of Marx's economics? Because they rely on labor having value, duh.
Yes, we're a "socialist paradise" in the US... and Africa is full of democratic utopias, right?
I am now known as Flyboy.THESE. YOU MUST THANK FREUD FOR THEM.
Oh Freud...thank you, you lovely crazy fuck. Most of what you came up with was batshit fuck insane, but then you had things like these...And overall you are why we have psychology in part...
FREUD. I WILL DEFEND YOU TO MY DYING DAY.
-clutches cherished copy of The Interpretation of Dreams-
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan ChahOutput has value, not input. If I work for 50 hours on a useless doodad while some doctor spends ten minutes to make a cure for cancer (just go with it), who's done the more valuable thing? More time spent on something doesn't make it worth more.
I don't think psychology isn't a hard science because of Freud, I think it's not a hard science because it's a humanitarian science. Sociology is chock full of statistics too and it's still a soft science. Humans aren't a predictable, consistent variable...
I am now known as Flyboy.I honestly don't care about whether or not psychology is considered "hard" or "soft". I don't see it as being important for anything other than scientist dick waving jokes.
^I love humans for that. We are highly predictable things and yet we're so hard to treat and deal with...So many little patterns...ooooooooh.
edited 25th Sep '11 3:03:34 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan ChahPsychologists do a lot of work on animals and extrapolate conclusions. I read an interesting paper on classical conditioning a few days ago; it was very surprising how much information they had gathered.
[1] This facsimile operated in part by synAC.Well, sure, humans are generally predictable, but not scientifically predictable. Thus is the distinction.
I am now known as Flyboy.^^That doesn't mean anything.
edited 25th Sep '11 3:06:36 PM by Tzetze
[1] This facsimile operated in part by synAC.Oh. Experiments, studies, other shit and psychology. Watching examples of Piaget's stages of development is a great way to pass the time.
The pre-operational stage is the most amusing one I think.
edited 25th Sep '11 3:07:45 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah

Oh, okay then. !@#$ Psychology then :P