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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#351: Aug 10th 2024 at 12:43:12 PM

Happosai is supposed to be terrible, but he's also treated as comic relief, which is, I think, something that wouldn't go over well today. The Dirty Old Man trope has, to Japan's credit, dropped off as time has gone on, at least I think it has. But Happosai is pretty much the embodiment of everything wrong with that trope.

Edited by DarkHunter on Aug 10th 2024 at 1:57:50 PM

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#352: Aug 10th 2024 at 1:53:16 PM

I saw lots of hubbub about censorship compared to the original, but it is a common tactic in anime to censor the broadcast version and uncensor the DVD release, so they might be going for that.

Apparently they just removed nipples. This is something that shouldn't really be a big deal, but apparently back in the old days Western fans held up the casual nudity in Ranma as evidence that anime wasn't for kids. So in making the show acceptable for broadcast they accidentally committed blasphemy (as viewed by a handful of American gen-xers)

And, no, it's not getting uncensored. These leaks are version that's ending up on Netflix, remember

Happosai is supposed to be a horrible person. What ages badly are instances where bad things are presented as good or "boys will be boys" kinda things. Ranma 1/2 surely has some of those, but I think it's saved by the fact that every character is supposed to be clearly flawed at best.

I've seen enough reports of people having difficulty getting past Happosai on rewatch/reread that I expect it'll still be a problem

Freshwater Since: Apr, 2023
#353: Aug 10th 2024 at 10:25:25 PM

The old pervert who harassed underage girls was a common trope in anime and while it was never really praised, it wasn't treated as creepy or as dark as most people would consider it now or some people even back then felt about it.

Happosai groping underage girls and stealing their underwear was usually played as bad but mostly comedic without a lot of effort put into the gag and portrayed as a relatively harmless offense. It was similar to Genma being a sleezy moocher who sold Ranma for various offers or Nabiki scamming people out of their money.

However, cultural norms, tastes, opportunities to speak out, and life experiences have changed for a lot of different groups and people. It's easier to accept and enjoy Genma's over the top nature being played for comedy for a variety of reasons (it's less realistic/personal, it's usually more over the top, etc). It's a little hard to use Happosai's gag the same way and expect the same reactions as several decades prior.

Edited by Freshwater on Aug 10th 2024 at 10:27:09 AM

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
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#354: Aug 10th 2024 at 10:38:58 PM

[up][up]I don't think you understand what I meant by an uncensored version. I don't mean what's going to go up on Netflix, but a possible uncensored DVD release after the show's been on Netflix for a while.

I don't really care about censorship, but Barbie Doll Anatomy is inherently kind of silly. There's other, smarter ways to censor nudity.

Happosai's awful, but no changes were made to Ryuunosuke's absolute terror of a father in the recent Urusei Yatsura remake, so I doubt any changes will be made to Happosai either.

Edited by PhiSat on Aug 10th 2024 at 10:40:20 AM

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#355: Aug 11th 2024 at 6:29:48 AM

Netflix isn't Crunchyroll— They want finished products, not broadcast versions. They also don't want disc versions of their shows to be released

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#356: Aug 11th 2024 at 10:38:21 AM

Do you think that they will start censoring a lot of stuff from the original manga in the remake series?

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#357: Aug 11th 2024 at 10:48:42 AM

Nipples is the only thing I've heard about, and the entire first cour got leaked

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#358: Aug 11th 2024 at 11:01:28 AM

For the people who did see the leaked episodes of the remake, were they any good?

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#359: Aug 13th 2024 at 5:55:19 AM

The new series having more focus on Action Sakuga definitely gives me hope that they'll adapt the Musk Dynasty and Phoenix King Saffron Arcs really well when they get to them, maybe even bring some of the action animators from the old series like Norio Matsumoto for old times sake for those.

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#360: Aug 13th 2024 at 6:16:36 PM

Maybe they might add in more action scenes to some story arcs.

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drac0blade Since: Jan, 2015
#361: Aug 24th 2024 at 10:33:09 PM

The one story arc I'm really curious about is the one with Ukyō's one-off suitor — you know, the guy who Ranma tried to put on the "correct" path when he thought he was a lesbian woman, and then freaked out when he turned out to be a crossdresser? All kinds of problematic now.

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#362: Aug 25th 2024 at 2:04:47 AM

[up] Tsubasa is not a one off... but he doesn't have any major focus. Just shows up to annoy Ukyo.

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#364: Aug 29th 2024 at 3:21:10 PM

I wonder if the remake will make the characters in the manga a little nicer compared to the manga? I know that the previous anime series kind of did that with the cast, but not by much.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#365: Aug 29th 2024 at 6:32:08 PM

Hard to know, this is like brotherhood a kind of faitfull to the manga, warts and all.

Anime having dirty old men is kind of a thing, they never phase up but it have become less present probably because mangaka back them were japanise boomer(no that news ones are often that much better, see the isekai burst and all the issue they have) but happosai also have the issue that he is more or less important as he show up a lot(contrast roshi who by DBZ he become a bumbling old men who is just kind of there) and he is kinda overpower in general, being able to push ramma a lot of times.

So it not a simple way to deal with it other than just brace yourself for it

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#366: Aug 30th 2024 at 3:06:01 AM

Are we seriously talking about boobies?

I grew up with Inuyasha and really like David Priduction’s Urusei Yatsura so I am looking forward to this. Mappa has a great track record too but Ranma 1/2 seems to be a culmination of the problems in Takahashi’s works.

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#367: Aug 30th 2024 at 7:34:07 PM

Would the Ranma remake suffer if they pretty much tone down all of the controversial elements in the manga or would it be better off for it?

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#369: Sep 3rd 2024 at 11:38:10 AM

I wonder if they are going to announce the English voice cast for the remake or is this remake even going to get an English dub?

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#370: Sep 18th 2024 at 7:07:53 PM

What would you guys like to see happen in the remake?

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KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#371: Sep 19th 2024 at 2:00:25 AM

[up] Musk and Phoenix Mountain arcs

Also, a bit late but more casting news

Interestingly none of them are returning cast members, though in Kuno's case the re-casting is sadly necessity rather than choice and a lot of the others aren't as active as they used to be, with one notable exception. Kazuhiko Inoue, Mikado's original actor is still quite active, even appearing in the Uresei Yatsura reboot

Travsam The Reconqueror from The Spanish side of Europe Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
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#372: Sep 19th 2024 at 5:09:50 AM

Not sure if you should really concern about Happousai, I think the most "woke" thing Ranma 1/2 had was having a girl or a non-binary character (technically Ranma), hitting an old pervert guy because of his actions...

Edited by Travsam on Sep 19th 2024 at 2:10:04 PM

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#373: Sep 21st 2024 at 1:10:04 AM

Canon Ranma isn't non-binary, not even on a technicality. He is always outspoken about his masculinity, and never acts feminine except as a ploy against others.

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SKJAM Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#374: Sep 21st 2024 at 9:06:11 AM

Girls hitting/slapping/punching old perverted men for their perverted actions was a standard thing for manga/anime as far back as the 1960s. What's changed over the course of time is that back in the day that was the *only* punishment those coots would get in a comedy and otherwise they were tolerated and put up with (and could even be unambiguously allies of the hero.)


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