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Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#101: Sep 30th 2011 at 9:00:15 PM

[up]I thought someone might say "you're 16 what do you know".

What I know: I live in en expensive city. New York is an expensive place to live, so unless they commute long distance they live in the city. 88k before tax really isn't that strong. Sure, it's good, but it only seems large because America has fucked up wages.

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
I changed accounts.
#102: Sep 30th 2011 at 9:02:25 PM

88K isn't that much for a combined income for a family of 3+, but it's very good for a single person. If they can't live on that, then they just aren't living within their means...

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#103: Sep 30th 2011 at 9:03:31 PM

@ dark: From my understanding, as long as the event is happening in public and a person is videoing it from a public location, there is no basis to arrest someone for recording the event. If the event is non-public or the recorder is on private property, a person recording the event can be arrested.

These "Occupy" events definitely fall under the first part of that.

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PhilippeO Since: Oct, 2010
#104: Sep 30th 2011 at 9:06:15 PM

[up]post96 and [up]post97 :

It is Illegal in Illinois, Massachusetts and Oregon

In Illinois, it's called a felony. The Midwestern state is one of three, along with Massachusetts and Oregon, to have passed eavesdropping laws that make it a crime to record a conversation without the consent of all parties involved. In Chicago, the law is drawing significant attention because, there, recording interactions with law enforcement officials constitutes a class one felony that can carry a sentence of up to 15 years in jail, even if the conversation happens in public.

http://www.switched.com/2011/01/24/record-a-police-officer-in-illinois-get-15-years-in-prison/

edited 30th Sep '11 9:09:21 PM by PhilippeO

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apocalypse from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#105: Sep 30th 2011 at 9:42:47 PM

Then there was this

Everyone should ensure these events are recorded.

edited 30th Sep '11 10:17:16 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Who watches the watchmen?
johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#106: Sep 30th 2011 at 10:29:37 PM

Well, I saw some protesters interviewed and was pleased they at least seem semi-competent. I never attend NYC rallies anymore because it's a farce. You walk down a narrow cordoned line and make a bunch of noise while bystanders and tourists look at you with bemusement. And then there's the inevitable dork who can't lead a chant to save their lives.

Though I suppose it's better than the May Day parade where some black guy started chanting Long Live Qadaffi.

edited 30th Sep '11 10:36:23 PM by johnnyfog

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apocalypse from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#108: Oct 1st 2011 at 3:36:00 PM

There are several similar protests being planned or starting to spring up around the U.S. and in Europe supposedly.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apocalypse from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#110: Oct 1st 2011 at 4:36:29 PM

Anyone found any confirmation on those supposed NYPD Police not coming into work because of how the protests were handled or is that just a rumour?

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Taifun Since: Jan, 2001
#111: Oct 1st 2011 at 5:44:36 PM

It was just a rumor. And was only alleged to be 100 or so cops... more than that call in sick on most days.

AllanAssiduity Since: Dec, 1969
#112: Oct 1st 2011 at 6:07:10 PM

Two of my friends are out protesting today, apparently. Kinda hoping I don't find any of them in any news articles.

snailbait bitchy queen from psych ward Since: Jul, 2010
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#114: Oct 1st 2011 at 9:38:32 PM

I really would like to join this protest. Republicans are pulling out that "class warfare" shit again and it's laughable.

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Exploder Pretending to be human Since: Jan, 2001
Pretending to be human
#115: Oct 1st 2011 at 10:02:56 PM

Their intentions are certainly good and understandable, but I'm not sure blocking traffic is really all that productive.

Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#116: Oct 1st 2011 at 11:02:44 PM

Nice to see the unions joining in. I expect to see some new unions formed before the dust settles.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apocalypse from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#117: Oct 2nd 2011 at 1:39:52 AM

I am not so sure the people were intending to block the bridge.

JP Morgan Chase same day Donates 4.6 Million to the NYPD

No no buying off or greed and corruption going on at all. Nope none.

edited 2nd Oct '11 1:40:06 AM by TuefelHundenIV

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Exploder Pretending to be human Since: Jan, 2001
Pretending to be human
#119: Oct 2nd 2011 at 5:37:28 AM

[up]Woah, I didn't expect that. Salute, indeed.

Let's see what the far righters can grasp at to say about that.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#120: Oct 2nd 2011 at 5:46:14 AM

[up]

Let's see what the far righters can grasp at to say about that.

Maybe, just Maybe, that their own Military are Traitors?

edited 2nd Oct '11 5:46:58 AM by Greenmantle

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tropetown Since: Mar, 2011
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TheRichSheik Detachable Lower Half from Minnesota Since: Apr, 2010
#123: Oct 2nd 2011 at 8:06:53 AM

Anyone else thinking OWS could become the liberal counterpart to the Tea Party?

I'm not sure whether this would be a good thing or a bad thing.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#125: Oct 2nd 2011 at 9:08:49 AM

@tropetown: Answer: Going by the coverage we have seen, mostly non-news-worthy nonsense.

Of course, that is not true, but it is the impression we here are getting from major news media.

The summary is this: a Canadian magazine advertized a protest in NYC's Wall Street that would have a few thousand people who were dissatisfied with how financial businesses have been handling themselves and their money over the past few years *

. In mid September a few hundred showed up (forgetting the exact date/numbers) and their numbers have been growing since then. Mostly because of the lack of popular media coverage and reports of police using violent arrest tactics on completely peaceful protestors. (this has been changing because of time and popular presure, but is still mostly true)

The protest has a lack of consolidated leadership/goals going against it, but that seems to be changing over time. Yesterday, the planers managed to get a couple thousand people to march towards Brooklyn without telling them the route or destination in advance. (supposedly) Not part of the plan was blocking the Brooklyn bridge itself, the police waiting for the protestors to all be on the bridge, and then the police coming in with paddy wagons and formations from both sides of the bridge to eventualy arrest 700 people. Most of whom were given citations and then released. (most info taken from this article first posted post 117)

wild mass guess Small tin-foil hat on: I am willing to believe that a portion of that was planned to encourage media attention.

If you want to know the whole story, I recommend going back to page 1 of the thread and read the linked-to articles.

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