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whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
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#26: Sep 22nd 2011 at 3:25:51 PM

TES, I'd disagree with that. I think people would ask him to prove his miracles.

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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#27: Sep 22nd 2011 at 3:32:23 PM

I would, and I wouldn't trust my own eyes; I'd need dozens of instances of the same kind of miracle in controlled environments; and it'd have to be observed by very many people.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

That said, if Jesus (or anyone else) could conclusively prove that he's the real thing and he really can pull off actual, supernatural miracles, I'd believe in him - obviously.

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#28: Sep 22nd 2011 at 3:42:07 PM

I don't think Jesus would submit to scientific testing of his powers, for pretty obvious reasons...

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Justice4243 Writer of horse words from Portland, OR, USA Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#29: Sep 22nd 2011 at 3:48:37 PM

Not obvious enough, I guess, 'cause I'm not sure what you're getting at.

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SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#30: Sep 22nd 2011 at 3:53:31 PM

My opinion on people who demand worship tends to be somewhat dim.

If the guy started making claims of lordship or dominion (apparently he was fond of those), I'd probably support a repeat of the whole Passion scene.

Anyway, it would be fun to see the guy go in whip-in-hand to Wall Street: Still, that would get'im crucified for sure. tongue

edited 22nd Sep '11 4:03:11 PM by SavageHeathen

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Justice4243 Writer of horse words from Portland, OR, USA Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#31: Sep 22nd 2011 at 3:58:28 PM

Considering his worse crime to date is "beating up some tables" and making some "holier than thou" Jewish leaders look a bit foolish, that seems a bit harsh.

Oh you Orwellian Editor, you!

edited 22nd Sep '11 4:02:04 PM by Justice4243

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GreatLich Since: Jun, 2009
#32: Sep 22nd 2011 at 3:59:17 PM

So, when Jesus should decide to show his face (again) the first thing people will ask him is "go on, show us a trick"?

That's pretty depressing, actually.

Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#33: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:00:14 PM

Jesus never demanded worship.

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SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#34: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:00:55 PM

[up][up][up] True enough.

Meh, I'd be willing to politely ignore the guy unless he actually went on and endorsed the Religious Right, or tried to force people into conversion or obedience. tongue

edited 22nd Sep '11 4:01:08 PM by SavageHeathen

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Justice4243 Writer of horse words from Portland, OR, USA Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#35: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:01:50 PM

Then it wouldn't be Jesus coming back...it would be some magic douchebag.

At least in comparison to Christ, that is.

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SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#36: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:02:38 PM

[up] I found the whole follow me or get a crappy afterlife shtick in Matthew to be quite disturbing, actually.

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Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#37: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:02:40 PM

[up][up]You think Jesus would embrace the Religious Right?

Not happening.

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#38: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:03:05 PM

Jesus never demanded worship.

What was "I am the way, and the truth, and the life" supposed to mean, then?

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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#39: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:04:33 PM

So, when Jesus should decide to show his face (again) the first thing people will ask him is "go on, show us a trick"?

That's pretty depressing, actually.

Surely there are accounts in the Gospels of crowds following him about asking for miracles? That's what people came to see.

Jesus' impact during prior to his crucifixion was actually pretty limited to the immediate area where he was preaching and teaching. Israel in 4 B.C. had no mass communication. That'd probably be different if he was active now.

edited 22nd Sep '11 4:05:32 PM by TheGloomer

joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#40: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:04:33 PM

He did call himself the son of God but also he treated his followers with respect unlike some cultists who demand child brides or mutliple wives.

Justice4243 Writer of horse words from Portland, OR, USA Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#41: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:05:44 PM

I found the whole follow me or get a crappy afterlife shtick in Matthew to be quite disturbing, actually

To be fair to Jesus, that wasn't a threat. Everyone already thought the afterlife sucked balls.

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#42: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:06:09 PM

@38 Well, as a rhetorical device, it could be "I know how you can become a good person and I'm willing to show you." I'm willing to give Jesus shitloads of poetic licence.

edited 22nd Sep '11 4:06:29 PM by BestOf

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SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#43: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:06:51 PM

Now, on a more serious note: Chances are he'd get treated like any other street preacher and considered a nutter by most. Technically, he was a street preacher (it's worthy of note that it was a more mainstream job back then)

edited 22nd Sep '11 4:32:30 PM by SavageHeathen

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Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#44: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:07:06 PM

@Wicked: He only asked for worship as an extension of God, really.

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#45: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:07:54 PM

Street peachers don't raise the dead and restore sight to the blind by touching them; I think that'd cause more impact than a nutter screaming on the street.

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#46: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:08:11 PM

So, when Jesus should decide to show his face (again) the first thing people will ask him is "go on, show us a trick"?

Well, that's only if he made claims of supernatural powers. If he made no such claims, I wouldn't demand evidence of their veracity.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#47: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:10:45 PM

On raising the dead: Vid or it never happened. tongue

Actually, restoring sight to the "blind" is a common cult leader parlor trick. After all, there's always been quite a market on fake miracles.

edited 22nd Sep '11 4:52:21 PM by SavageHeathen

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Justice4243 Writer of horse words from Portland, OR, USA Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#48: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:17:26 PM

Jesus would likely be arrested for piracy once he makes bread no longer a scarcity.

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#49: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:19:51 PM

quick, someone check if CC-BY-SA applies to bread!

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SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#50: Sep 22nd 2011 at 4:23:59 PM

[up][up]Well, if he was a human-shaped replicator, the proper thing to do would be to investigate the Hell out of him. For Science!!

Anything that could give Mankind sweet, sweet fabbers. If it was deemed non-replicable, we could always brainwash the dude and keep'im replicating rare resources 24/7/365. Perhaps glitch him and get'im to self-replicate, so we can haz moar fabbers?

edited 22nd Sep '11 4:30:22 PM by SavageHeathen

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