Trope Description Improvement Drive

Thank you, Eddie!

Hot Mom could stand to loss a couple paragraphs.

Ugh, it's claiming to be YMMV just above a list of objective criteria. I'm tempted to just chop off everything above the "In short, this trope is..." line.

Given I'm planning to chop more than 75% of the description, I'd like a mod or something to stop by and say "take a chainsaw to it Deboss" to make sure I'm on track. Or open a TRS, whichever.

edited 15th Oct '11 4:29:00 AM by Deboss

Sure, chop it up. That last paragraph, though, makes no sense.

eta: I whittled on it a bit.

edited 15th Oct '11 5:35:46 AM by FastEddie

Ugly Guy, Hot Wife could do with losing a few paragraphs.

Did it.

Awesome.

Hotter and Sexier has a bad case of Example as a Thesis

Sugar Bowl needs to be rid of the annoying travel log.

Cut the entire travel log section off and tossed it on SelfDemonstrating.Sugar Bowl.

Bite the Wax Tadpole's description has clarity problems.

It has a lot of problems, like "how is this a trope?".

Don't Say Such Stupid Things! seems needlessly Anime-centric.

Hmm, it's a Stock Phrase. I've always been a bit confused about Stock Phrase pages and what should be on them (and, really, whether we should even have them in the first place), but that being said, it's about a specific phrase that only or mostly turns up in translated anime, so the anime focus seems appropriate.

At first glance, it looks to me like pretty much all the non-anime, non-video game examples should be deleted, because they don't use the Stock Phrase, but simply involve situations vaguely reminiscent of the one that uses the Stock Phrase.

If it's about a stock phrase specifically from Japanese works, the page is not doing a very good job of emphasizing that. Right now it looks like it's trying to be a trope, but not bothering with the concept that it might be applied outside of anime.

edited 21st Oct '11 10:27:42 AM by TripleElation

I think the standard for Stock Phrase is that, if it's working, it should be about the event the stock phrase is pointing out.

Compensating for Something needs a rewrite to make it clear that it's about remarks made within the work that a characters is Compensating for Something and something that tropers can use to make speculations about why a character has large sword.

If that's the case, then I think the page should be a trope page about the situation, not the phrase associated with it. Going by Stock Phrases, it sounds like it really is just about "Someone uses these words," and that the situation is a separate issue that can (and probably does) often have its own separate trope page.

Does Sudden Sequel Death Syndrome really need that Example As Thesis it opens with?

Really need? Nah. Need? Perhaps. Does that mean it has to be removed? Nah, too. I like its wording, although it could use some improvement, as it takes too long to get to the part where it actually is about the sequel.

At the risk of making it a personal Catchphrase, if you can't Tweet an Example as a Thesis, it's too long.

Let's see... including the paragraph immediately after, it's a hundred words and fivehundred seventy-four characters, so it's certainly not the worst we have.

Anyone up for Fun Personified? I'm not sure what to make of it.

That one needs actual TRS. The examples outside of Comic Books are almost all wrong. The trope really requires a universe made up of multiple interlocking franchises like the Marvel Universe, or the Star Wars Expanded Universe.

The trope itself is having a series in such a universe that follows a character that's zannier, loonier, more tongue in cheek, and doesn't quite fit in with the other titles.

edited 26th Oct '11 6:22:03 PM by shimaspawn

Now the description makes sense. Probably needs a title hinting at the limitation.