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What it says in the title. EDIT: Link to auxiliary sandbox page

Some trope descriptions suffer from problems. Some possible ones:

  1. Attention Deficit... Ooh, Shiny!. A paragraph starts explaining element X of the trope, then it wanders off to explain element Y. Two paragraphs after that we're back at element X again. Nary a conjunction is in sight.
  2. Too long. Stuff that should go in analysis, or maybe in another trope, or maybe nowhere, going in the main space. Too much scrolling required before you can get to the examples.
  3. Fan Myopia. Some "this is how it happens in WRESTLING!" dissertation is taking up half of the page on a trope about white t-shirts. We already have a thread on that one - discussion about the general phenomenon goes there, specific candidates to deal with go here.
  4. General lack of balance and order. Something is emphasized at the expense of the other aspects of the trope, even though it has no right to be. Consequences of the trope come first, then related tropes, then a mention of the Trope Codifier, then common scenarios where it comes into play...
  5. Failure to answer the fundamental question up front: What is this trope? Not what it "might" be or what can "possibly" happen - what is it?
  6. Not enough meat. Juicy stuff is missing, like: When is the trope likely to turn up? Why would an author use it? In what ways does the audience often react? Which tropes are related to it and how?
  7. Spelling and grammar issues.
  8. The first line which makes honest-to-god sense is below the fold. e.g. Example as a Thesis that makes you go "huh?" instead of "ooooh".
  9. Bad Writing. Purple Prose, pitching the trope, Wanton Cruelty to the Common Comma.
  10. Egregiously Fan-Myopic quote.
  11. Jaywalking.

Bring up trope pages here so we can work on them. If no one does in a while, I'll try to dig something up.

edited 22nd Sep '11 10:48:59 AM by TripleElation

Whitecroc Since: Dec, 2010
#726: May 13th 2013 at 11:56:30 AM

Light Novel is another of those descriptions that assume the reader is actually familiar with the subject matter, using Show, Don't Tell in favour of a clear description. It shouldn't take much to clean it up, but since I'm unfamiliar with the medium, are there any volunteers who would prefer doing it instead?

MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#727: May 14th 2013 at 6:43:22 PM

@post 722: Where on the analysis page should I put it? I'm having a hard time actually figuring out exactly where on the page it would fit.

edited 14th May '13 6:44:16 PM by MyTimingIsOff

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#728: May 15th 2013 at 8:52:24 AM

It already has an analysis page? <looks the link up> ... Ugh, too much Wall of Text. Can't bother looking through this right now.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#729: May 17th 2013 at 9:46:32 AM

Frickin' Laser Beams urgently needs its description shortened,I have no idea where to begin though.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#730: May 20th 2013 at 8:07:33 AM

Is the description on Shameless Self-Promoter acceptable?

And before you say, no, TRS hasn't responded.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#731: May 20th 2013 at 8:53:02 AM

My only reservation is that it may be too brief.

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Whitecroc Since: Dec, 2010
#734: May 22nd 2013 at 2:16:49 AM

Looks like an ill-fated work-in-progress to me.

videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#735: May 22nd 2013 at 8:38:38 AM

There's archived discussion, too, so it's pretty old.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#736: May 22nd 2013 at 8:49:48 AM

That is a trope.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lexicon Since: May, 2012
#737: May 22nd 2013 at 11:46:53 AM

It looks like a trope that's missing a description.

Whitecroc Since: Dec, 2010
#738: May 22nd 2013 at 1:55:33 PM

Is that the sort of thing we bring to the TRS?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#739: May 22nd 2013 at 1:56:18 PM

Not really.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#741: May 22nd 2013 at 2:19:03 PM

Hmm, on second look, it might be indicated... although a description is there.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DunDun Wandering... Since: Apr, 2012
Wandering...
#742: May 23rd 2013 at 5:45:55 PM

Right Under Their Noses has (in this order):

  • A description
  • A compare/contrast section
  • A "this might extend to" list
  • A corollary
  • Another corollary
  • A short description of the Real Life use of this trope
  • A see-also section
  • To quote, "Note: If the hero is a Spy, this may be a Justified Trope."

Followed by the example section.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#743: May 23rd 2013 at 8:01:21 PM

I say chuck bullets 4 through 7 in Analysis.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#744: May 25th 2013 at 7:08:57 AM

Just came across Standard Female Grab Area.Its description is way longer then it should be.

edited 25th May '13 11:06:40 AM by Ultimatum

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#746: May 25th 2013 at 10:54:37 AM

[up]?

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#747: May 25th 2013 at 10:58:22 AM

There's a missing word after "way".

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#748: May 30th 2013 at 12:42:40 AM

Elmuh Fudd Syndwome needs a description that isn't Self Demonstrating. I would split it, but I can't read that.

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nemui10pm from outer space Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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