What it says in the title. EDIT: Link to auxiliary sandbox page
Some trope descriptions suffer from problems. Some possible ones:
- Attention Deficit... Ooh, Shiny!. A paragraph starts explaining element X of the trope, then it wanders off to explain element Y. Two paragraphs after that we're back at element X again. Nary a conjunction is in sight.
- Too long. Stuff that should go in analysis, or maybe in another trope, or maybe nowhere, going in the main space. Too much scrolling required before you can get to the examples.
- Fan Myopia. Some "this is how it happens in WRESTLING!" dissertation is taking up half of the page on a trope about white t-shirts. We already have a thread on that one
- discussion about the general phenomenon goes there, specific candidates to deal with go here.
- General lack of balance and order. Something is emphasized at the expense of the other aspects of the trope, even though it has no right to be. Consequences of the trope come first, then related tropes, then a mention of the Trope Codifier, then common scenarios where it comes into play...
- Failure to answer the fundamental question up front: What is this trope? Not what it "might" be or what can "possibly" happen - what is it?
- Not enough meat. Juicy stuff is missing, like: When is the trope likely to turn up? Why would an author use it? In what ways does the audience often react? Which tropes are related to it and how?
- Spelling and grammar issues.
- The first line which makes honest-to-god sense is below the fold. e.g. Example as a Thesis that makes you go "huh?" instead of "ooooh".
- Bad Writing. Purple Prose, pitching the trope, Wanton Cruelty to the Common Comma.
- Egregiously Fan-Myopic quote.
- Jaywalking.
Bring up trope pages here so we can work on them. If no one does in a while, I'll try to dig something up.
edited 22nd Sep '11 10:48:59 AM by TripleElation
Uuuuhhh! I don't like the description for Incredibly Conspicuous Drag because it feels less about "character doesn't look good cross-dressing" and more "I hate when actor doesn't try to pretend being the opposite gender".
Also, Not-So-Forgotten Birthday has a paragraph that basically boils down to "This plot would be solved in two seconds if the characters just said happy birthday", even though the whole point is that a character thinks everyone forgot their birthday when they (everyone else) actually pretended to do, defeating the whole purpose of the trope.
Edited by Rainbo6 on Jul 20th 2024 at 6:31:15 AM
Working to help keep TV Tropes in tip-top shape (she/her).I created a TLP draft for an idea I named Loves Doing Taxes
, only to find it is a bit too close to the existing trope Paperworkaholic. However, I thought it could be worth expanding on that trope to include taxes, as well as some of the character implications and related tropes.
A paperworkaholic is never happier than when sitting before a stack of files and folders that need to be taken care of and is your greatest ally when face to face with a Vast Bureaucracy.
The Paperworkaholic can crossover into many bureaucrat tropes. See Badass Bureaucrat for times when their skills are put to impressive use. They might be an Obstructive Bureaucrat depending on just how seriously or literally they take their position. Being a Paperworkaholic may not necessarily prevent someone from being a Corrupt Bureaucrat. The opportunities for such may even be part of what they like about the bureaucracy.
Their love of the job usually means that they will not be a Beleaguered Bureaucrat unless they happen to be having a particularly bad day. Most Desk Jockeys would prefer to be back in the action, though a few may come to prefer their position behind a desk. The Paperworkaholic is most likely a Clerk as well.
A paperworkaholic is never happier than when sitting before a stack of files and folders that need to be taken care of and is your greatest ally when face to face with a Vast Bureaucracy. Not even the Intimidating Revenue Service can faze them, as they enjoy filing taxes just as much, and will happily haul out their meticulously organised accounts. A Paperwork Punishment is consequently absolutely useless against them.
The Paperworkaholic can crossover into many bureaucrat tropes. See Badass Bureaucrat for times when their skills are put to impressive use. They might be an Obstructive Bureaucrat depending on just how seriously or literally they take their position. Being a Paperworkaholic may not necessarily prevent someone from being a Corrupt Bureaucrat — the opportunities for such may even be part of what they like about the bureaucracy. Their enjoyment of the job means they will not be a Beleaguered Bureaucrat unless they happen to be having a particularly bad day. However, while the Paperworkaholic is usually a bureaucrat or Clerk of some kind, some folks just love paperwork even when it isn't part of their career.
In any case, being a Paperworkaholic is generally used to emphasise that a character is a rule-abiding goody-two-shoes type, a nerdy intellectual who finds complex bureaucratic processes trivial or stimulating, or incredibly boring in all that they do.
May overlap with Mundane Made Awesome. Compare and contrast the Desk Jockey, who is stuck doing paperwork and would often prefer to be back in the action, though a few may come to prefer their position behind a desk. Contrast Soul-Crushing Desk Job.
Edited by Azorius24 on Jul 21st 2024 at 5:34:37 PM
"The only thing which is certain, is that something will happen".![]()
It shouldn't reallt be about whether the character looks good, but whether they look convincing enough to "pass". I'm not sure how to describe that objectively, though.
I think it's one of those Paper-Thin Disguise tropes where the audience sees immediately through it, yet the characters in-universe don't. The description should reflect that.
Fjón þvæ ég af mér fjanda minna rán og reiði ríkra manna.
Reception in descriptions can be instantly removed for being against the rules. Feel free to do so.
(Although this is the trope description thread. We have a work description one but I can’t easily link it as I’m on mobile.)
EDIT: Here
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jul 21st 2024 at 7:18:33 AM
Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallMysterious Protector description sounds like it was made specifically with Tuxedo Mask in mind, while the examples shown many other cases.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupSapient All Along got its description changed recently
without consensus. What to do besides sending a notifier? Just revert? Examine?
Edited by FernandoLemon on Jul 24th 2024 at 6:52:44 AM
I'd like to apologize for all this.Woolseyism's description is very long and starts with the history of the term and not how the site uses it.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
This is prime time to mention something that I wanted to mention, I think people love the localized terminology and or clever reworking he did but otherwise his translations are actually kinda bad, lots of mistranslations and contradictions and Dub Induced Plot Holes. People staunchly love his work and refuse more proper translations that ALSO do Woolseyism to keep everything appealing to foreign audiences, and way better than the man himself ever did.
Too Long Didnt Read: Yeah that section should definitely go.
As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.Are Worse with Context and Explain, Explain... Oh, Crap! related by being about explaining things and should crosswick? Or am I mistaken?
- So, not as clear a connection as I think. okay.
Edited by Malady on Jul 28th 2024 at 9:51:38 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
That question may be better for the Setting Up Trope Relationships thread.
EDIT: Link here
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Edited by DoktorvonEurotrash on Jul 28th 2024 at 9:21:31 AM
Should we expand the definition of Tranquilized Mid-Sentence and change this:
to this?
There really isn't any reason for it to be that specific.
So the description for Death of the Author is a massive wall of text and I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas how to make it less bloated
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverShould the description paragraph of Male Gaze be updated to include Leg Focus? I'm asking because the Leg Focus page outright says "This is notably recurrent in G-rated fiction, where the Male Gaze is directed to the legs..."
With Great Power, Comes Great MotivationBumping my suggested rewrite
of Large Ham's description to remove repetition?
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The second paragraph does mention legs? You could theoretically pothole Leg Focus in there?
x5,
x6 Then we should add something to the description to make it clear why this is more noteworthy than someone just being knocked out midsentence. Here's my proposal for an additional paragraph:
I'd say revert; the extra stuff mostly only applies to Sapient Pet (AFAIK anyway).
Re #5567: Death of the Author's description has been brought up before
, but I'm not sure whether it's still considered more of a TRS issue. I do agree that there's absolutely no reason for it to be that long but the solution might not be as simple as simply trimming things down
They may have Friendly Fandoms, but what's the point of mentioning that here? Neither of the three have mascots and Cuphead isn't even horror.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup

Just changed it!