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GastonRabbit Take your time from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Take your time
Dec 8th 2019 at 12:44:56 AM

Is this thread even required for crosswicking related tropes? I thought this thread was mainly for issues with clarity and readability. At least I'm getting that impression from the opening post (which I'm surprised isn't pinned).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 8th 2019 at 2:49:41 PM

Currently sick, so less active with TRS cleanup. Please help out.
WarJay77 LT/P Herald~ from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
wingedcatgirl cat_rotation.gif from Catgirl Heaven, presumably Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
cat_rotation.gif
Dec 11th 2019 at 2:35:13 PM

The Cameo, as currently written, applies exclusively to appearances by (famous real people) and (animated characters). Is that and/or should that be the actual definition?

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Dec 11th 2019 at 2:35:25 AM

🐱 Name: Sylvi 🐱 I write things and like to talk about them. 🐱 Pronouns: it/they/she
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dec 11th 2019 at 3:51:37 PM

[up] I know it can count in-universe characters who only appear briefly, so the description needs fixing.

You say "consensus", I say obstructive bureaucracy
wingedcatgirl cat_rotation.gif from Catgirl Heaven, presumably Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
cat_rotation.gif
Dec 11th 2019 at 4:55:18 PM

I imagine it's meant to be the broadest supertrope of cameo appearances.

... Most of the listed subtropes don't qualify for The Cameo-as-written, and that's not how subtropes are supposed to work.

🐱 Name: Sylvi 🐱 I write things and like to talk about them. 🐱 Pronouns: it/they/she
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dec 11th 2019 at 5:34:17 PM

[up] more like "that's not how the trope should be written".

You say "consensus", I say obstructive bureaucracy
wingedcatgirl cat_rotation.gif from Catgirl Heaven, presumably Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
cat_rotation.gif
Dec 14th 2019 at 7:26:47 AM

My question is, is this "changing the definition" and needs to be taken to TRS, or is it "rewriting the description to be in line with what we all know the definition really is" and I can just fix it myself?

... Typing it out like that makes me think probably the first thing.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Dec 14th 2019 at 7:29:09 AM

🐱 Name: Sylvi 🐱 I write things and like to talk about them. 🐱 Pronouns: it/they/she
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dec 14th 2019 at 2:50:37 PM

I can help, if you wish...

You say "consensus", I say obstructive bureaucracy
Dec 18th 2019 at 12:31:00 AM

The description for Soul-Powered Engine consists of a single sentence along with what it overlaps with and see also. I would try to expand it myself but I originally went to the page in the first place to look for the exact definition as I was unsure of it.

Knowledge is Power, Guard it Well
Dec 19th 2019 at 8:32:03 PM

And Your Reward Is Clothes's description clashes with its image.

New suggested description in latter half of this post:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1573791091059422800&page=2#comment-27

...

IP thread was locked, so can't discuss there.

Too late here, so asking for any changes before I swap it in tomorrow or something.

Help with possible disambig and redirect issues!
Albert3105 Magikarp deterrence
Magikarp deterrence
Dec 26th 2019 at 11:36:17 AM

I feel like making a sandbox to expand Two-Part Trilogy beyond the description's current 1 vs. 2+3 structure, i.e. accommodating other types of Two-Part Trilogy like 1+3 vs. 2 and 1+2 vs. 3.

Edited by Albert3105 on Dec 26th 2019 at 2:38:31 PM

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dec 26th 2019 at 6:25:20 PM

[up] I'd like to see it

You say "consensus", I say obstructive bureaucracy
rjd1922 The Radio Demon from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
The Radio Demon
Dec 26th 2019 at 8:06:34 PM

[Trope Name] is self-demonstrating at the expense of clarity. It took me a while to realize what it's about.

I haven't been that entertained since the stock market crash of 1929!
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dec 26th 2019 at 8:58:15 PM

[up] The laconic helps.

You say "consensus", I say obstructive bureaucracy
Brainulator9 Short-Term Projects herald, Hedge Trimmer & more from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Short-Term Projects herald, Hedge Trimmer & more
Dec 27th 2019 at 12:47:09 PM

[up][up] [Trope Name] needs to go to TRS under "Unclear Description". Two other things about it:

  • Its subpages and description overlap with JustForFun.Trope Name Injokes.
  • Its name violates the rule that "trope" should not be used as a placeholder.

Edited by Brainulator9 on Dec 27th 2019 at 3:49:18 PM

wingedcatgirl cat_rotation.gif from Catgirl Heaven, presumably Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
cat_rotation.gif
Dec 27th 2019 at 1:29:16 PM

[up]The Just For Fun version used to be at [Trope Name] Injokes. It was moved back to JustForFun.Trope Name a month and a half ago — I didn't see any kind of discussion around this, but I had assumed there was one.

🐱 Name: Sylvi 🐱 I write things and like to talk about them. 🐱 Pronouns: it/they/she
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dec 27th 2019 at 3:15:03 PM

[up][up] But the whole joke is that it's about "naming blandly by naming it by what it is", so it can't be called by anything but "trope".

You say "consensus", I say obstructive bureaucracy
Brainulator9 Short-Term Projects herald, Hedge Trimmer & more from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Short-Term Projects herald, Hedge Trimmer & more
Dec 27th 2019 at 4:20:00 PM

[up] Then under Clear, Concise, Witty, we should drop the self-demonstrating name.

rjd1922 The Radio Demon from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
The Radio Demon
Dec 27th 2019 at 6:14:31 PM

I think the self-demonstrating name works fine: it's not exactly the same as using "trope" as a placeholder. It's the confusing description I'm concerned about.

I haven't been that entertained since the stock market crash of 1929!
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dec 27th 2019 at 6:25:03 PM

The definition is in here: "Definition of the trope, explaining that the trope occurs when specific lines of dialogue are replaced by general and generic descriptions, giving the appearance of a template."

You say "consensus", I say obstructive bureaucracy
Dec 28th 2019 at 6:55:47 PM

The Victorian idea of a fairy is as tiny Winged Humanoids, right?

'Cause Fairy in a Bottle doesn't mention the Humanoid part, so I can't justifiably pothole to that...

Edited by Malady on Dec 28th 2019 at 6:58:01 AM

Help with possible disambig and redirect issues!
WikiWanderer nothing to report from The Netherlands Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
nothing to report
Dec 30th 2019 at 2:06:39 PM

The Antagonist is really bad after the line about No Antagonist, and Iím not sure what some of it is supposed to mean

PSA: a cat is not a dog
rjd1922 The Radio Demon from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
The Radio Demon
Dec 30th 2019 at 10:10:14 PM

[up]Yeah, that could all be removed.

I haven't been that entertained since the stock market crash of 1929!
GastonRabbit Take your time from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Take your time
Jan 3rd 2020 at 12:51:59 AM

That part of Antagonist was already removed, but I agree with its removal.

Currently sick, so less active with TRS cleanup. Please help out.
Jan 3rd 2020 at 12:44:24 PM

Purple Prose says:

Purple Prose usually pairs flamboyant vocabulary with fairly plain grammar (that can get outright primitive in extreme cases) which differentiates it from true Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness.

Can someone provide me an example illustrating the differences?

It seems I was wrong about it being the difference between:

and

"the globular sphere heralding the prime time for the breaking of fasts"

Edited by Malady on Jan 3rd 2020 at 12:48:06 PM

Help with possible disambig and redirect issues!

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