I fail to see why Green Lantern needs to be rebooted in the first place. Didn't they just start what may or may not be a new series a couple months ago? In what was an arguably mediocre but definitely not terrible movie?
How would running away immediately and sloppily doing what it obviously a mere replacement so soon going to fix the "problem," when they could just work with what they had?
YMMV on that.
Personally, while I think making a sequel to that turd is stupid and hope it dies in development hell, I think rather than a reboot, I'd prefer they do what they did for Hulk. A pseudo sequel/reboot rather than put us through another origin story.
Well seeing as it's the ring that gives people the powers you can easilly have a non reboot redoing, just have the ring move to the next host. Any of the other Green Lantern humans would be good. Give them a slight cosmetic difference, a different approach to using their powers and you have a film with a fresh approach that isn't a simple reboot.
Okay, maybe I shouldn't of used "reboot", but I'm working of Hollywood logic where if a franchise film doesn't make millions of dollars for whatever reason, it's time to reboot. Like how Sony's rebooting the Spiderman film series. Then again, Sony needs to make another Spidey film or the license reverts to Marvel, so that was probably a bad example
A better example would be the Superman reboot. Superman Returns was a mediocre film and had a lukewarm box office. Zack Snyder is going to relaunch the film and the release is coming in '13. GL might not have the same name recognition, but he has so much potential.
Okay, maybe I should've called it a soft reboot, but my ideas still stand.
With blood and rage of crimson red ripped from a corpse so freshly dead together with our hellish hate we'll burn you all that is your fate- Fact 1: Superman Returns was a MASSIVE box office hit, Domestically, the film was the sixth-highest grossing film of 2006. In worldwide totals, Superman Returns was ninth-highest.
It made more money than Casino Royale, and I don't see people calling that one a mediocre hit.
- Fact 2: The reason for the reboot have less to do with Return's performances than with The Dark Knight trilogy's and Zach Snyder's current popularity (more the former).
- Fact 3: Superman Returns was a sequel a movie 26 years ago (Superman II, it disregards superman 3 and 4). The franchise had already been bogged down with the aforementioned less than stellar sequels. A reboot was innevitable. In fact, Superman Return's original concept was for a reboot, but the movie got stuck in Development Hell for almost a decade, taking various shapes and forms before Superman Returns emerged out of it.
edited 15th Sep '11 12:17:28 PM by Ghilz
My two suggestions:
- Do not cast a Ryan Reynolds-type actor in the lead.
- Do not let a writer who's never done any action projects near it.
Also, I fail to see why Superman Returns was a bad movie. Was everyone really expecting something like X-Men?
More Buscemi at http://forum.reelsociety.com/I still think the two hulk movies is the move to follow. For one, GL is fun, but I don't think his origin story is that necessary to spend a whole movie on. It would not be hard to begin a pseudo-reboot sequel without an origin story. Drop the explanations seamlessly into the plot if you need to. Explain the power by having Kilowog training new lanterns for examples during a scene of Hal visiting Oa. Drop a mention of Abin Sur's death and passing on the ring as he chats with Tomar-re. Etc.... Saves you more time to have a more meaningful plot, and develop complex villains like Sinestro.
edited 15th Sep '11 10:25:44 AM by Ghilz
I also believe there is no need for a reboot. As bad as the Green Lantern film was it should be very easy to salvage. Pretty much all the bad things about the film have no reason to be carried forward into the sequel.
The worst thing for me was the dialouge and lack of coherence to the plot, but hiring better writers should solve that problem instantly. The dodgy romance and friendship can be saved by being made more believable or completely forgotten. Amanda Waller can be recast or dropped. The Black Hand and Parallax were badly used, but Sinestro has been set up as tge next villain and he was the best thing about the last film.
Edit: Just to be clear, I don't think this has to be a pseudo sequel. It should, if the right creative team are hired, to make a straight up suprisingly improved sequel.
edited 15th Sep '11 1:30:44 PM by C0mraid
Am I a good man or a bad man?Sorry for the tangent, but if Superman Returns was so successful, why didn't we have a sequel and why are they making this Man of Steel thing? A movie can make a lot of money without being a "success".
^ As already noted, Superman Returns, while moderately successful, was a new installment of a film series that started decades ago - that I can understand rebooting the continuity for, as they've already done so much with that universe.
Not to mention they want something to tie into their new (also possibly ill advised) Batman continuity, which they can't easily do with the preexisting continuity.
I like reboots if the original version was made decades from then. However, I have always been against reboots that only come a few years after it (The Incredible Hulk, Spider-Man). If the filmmakers screwed up, that should be it. No more of that title! Sorry. The audiences shouldn't be seeing Spidey again!
Why shouldn't they see Spidey again? Because Spider-Man 3 wasn't the best movie ever that mean that it's ruined forever and Spider-Man 4 couldn't have been better?
edited 18th Sep '11 11:53:32 AM by NULLcHiLD27
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We're talking about Shota's idea that a franchise should end just because one movie wasn't great, again, even though the first two were great and the third wasn't even that bad and that there was (in at least Sam Raimi's Spider-Man's case) a better chance of a fourth great film than of a worse.
As for rebooting Green Lantern, why? How about you wait a film and see if they can't get their shit together first?
The distributor also forced the director to cast Ryan Reynolds in the lead. Reportedly, DC and the director were courting Chris Pine for the lead.
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I have a feeling that Chris Pine would have be a better choice.
And to the argument why it's in the best interest for a distributor (WB) to make another iteration of a failed IP (Green Lantern)? Well...
- Warner Bros wants a Justice League film to compete with Marvel's incredibly savvy move to create a film continuity to launch The Avengers.
- Wonder Woman, the only member of the core Justice League without a film, is for all intents DOA as per the failed TV pilot
- Nolan has gone on record that he wants his Batman trilogy free of any interference, hence there's likely a Batman Reboot after The Dark Knight Rises to ease Bats into a new continuity.
- Zack Snyder's Superman reboot The Man of Steel will likely be the tip of the JL film like the Iron Man film was for The Avengers film
- The Flash is the only IP that hasn't been made into a film and it's going to take a while for that to happen.
- Green Lantern has overtaken Wonder Woman and The Flash in overall series and character popularity in both the recent Crisis Crossover Blackest Night and the overall character popularity of Hal Jordan. If Wondie didn't have seniority, Hal would stand with Supes and Bats as the third member of the JL trinity.
- Much like The Hulk, GL is a good position to reinvent itself with another iteration that actually respects and acknowledges its source material.
It's imperative that DC meets Marvel's current successes and to that end it would be ideal to form a four-man film team to match Marvel's: Supes, Bats, Flash, and Greenie to match Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, and Captain America. DC and Warner Bros has potential here and they can take advantage of it; GL is integral to that.
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Well it's official: DC and Warner Bros can't make a non-Superman or Batman film worth a damn. Anything and everything associated with the Green Lantern film is poison with a capital P: from the characters to the people who played them to the director. DC wants a Justice League film to compete with Marvel's The Avengers and I can see them rebooting the franchise a few years from now like they did with Batman after Batman And Robin. So how are they going to do it? Here are my thoughts:
Thoughts?
edited 14th Sep '11 9:03:09 PM by EnglishMajor
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