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EnglishMajor All haill Atroticus! from The 5th Circle of Hell Since: Aug, 2010
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#1: Sep 14th 2011 at 8:36:33 PM

Well it's official: DC and Warner Bros can't make a non-Superman or Batman film worth a damn. Anything and everything associated with the Green Lantern film is poison with a capital P: from the characters to the people who played them to the director. DC wants a Justice League film to compete with Marvel's The Avengers and I can see them rebooting the franchise a few years from now like they did with Batman after Batman And Robin. So how are they going to do it? Here are my thoughts:

  • Kyle Rainer will have to be the new Lantern protagonist. Thanks to the unfortunate Hollywood convention of White Male Lead and wanting a younger, sexier protagonist they'll pass over Guy Gardner because he's old and John Stewart because he's Black.
  • Joseph Gordon Levit should play him since he has the action chops (Inception) and the sci-fi humor(Third Rock From The Sun) to do justice to the kind of geeky artist Rainer is and the kind of setting the GL universe is.
  • The plot should be the Emerald Dawn miniseries where Hal is posessed by Paralax and goes on a killing spree. This will ensure Hal's redemption in the eyes of those who saw the original film as we all knows that dying is the quickest way to be forgiven of all sins.
  • Driected by Joe Johnston as he as a real appreciation for story over CGI as opposed to Campbell.
  • Maxwell Lord should be the recruiter to match Nick Fury as Amanda Waller is poisoned. It'd set up a nice conflict for the Justice League film since we all know who he is and what he becomes. Wiki him if you don't know.
  • Let's hope we don't see his girlfriend Stuffed in the Fridge.

Thoughts?

edited 14th Sep '11 9:03:09 PM by EnglishMajor

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Sep 15th 2011 at 12:21:36 AM

I fail to see why Green Lantern needs to be rebooted in the first place. Didn't they just start what may or may not be a new series a couple months ago? In what was an arguably mediocre but definitely not terrible movie?

How would running away immediately and sloppily doing what it obviously a mere replacement so soon going to fix the "problem," when they could just work with what they had?

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#3: Sep 15th 2011 at 12:36:46 AM

In what was an arguably mediocre but definitely not terrible movie?

YMMV on that.

Personally, while I think making a sequel to that turd is stupid and hope it dies in development hell, I think rather than a reboot, I'd prefer they do what they did for Hulk. A pseudo sequel/reboot rather than put us through another origin story.

Gvzbgul from Middle Earth Since: Jul, 2010
#4: Sep 15th 2011 at 2:53:34 AM

Well seeing as it's the ring that gives people the powers you can easilly have a non reboot redoing, just have the ring move to the next host. Any of the other Green Lantern humans would be good. Give them a slight cosmetic difference, a different approach to using their powers and you have a film with a fresh approach that isn't a simple reboot.

EnglishMajor All haill Atroticus! from The 5th Circle of Hell Since: Aug, 2010
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#5: Sep 15th 2011 at 9:55:55 AM

Okay, maybe I shouldn't of used "reboot", but I'm working of Hollywood logic where if a franchise film doesn't make millions of dollars for whatever reason, it's time to reboot. Like how Sony's rebooting the Spiderman film series. Then again, Sony needs to make another Spidey film or the license reverts to Marvel, so that was probably a bad example sad

A better example would be the Superman reboot. Superman Returns was a mediocre film and had a lukewarm box office. Zack Snyder is going to relaunch the film and the release is coming in '13. GL might not have the same name recognition, but he has so much potential.

Okay, maybe I should've called it a soft reboot, but my ideas still stand.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#6: Sep 15th 2011 at 10:12:14 AM

A better example would be the Superman reboot. Superman Returns was a mediocre film and had a lukewarm box office. Zack Snyder is going to relaunch the film and the release is coming in '13. GL might not have the same name recognition, but he has so much potential.

edited 15th Sep '11 12:17:28 PM by Ghilz

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#7: Sep 15th 2011 at 10:12:35 AM

My two suggestions:

  • Do not cast a Ryan Reynolds-type actor in the lead.

  • Do not let a writer who's never done any action projects near it.

Also, I fail to see why Superman Returns was a bad movie. Was everyone really expecting something like X-Men?

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#8: Sep 15th 2011 at 10:23:10 AM

I still think the two hulk movies is the move to follow. For one, GL is fun, but I don't think his origin story is that necessary to spend a whole movie on. It would not be hard to begin a pseudo-reboot sequel without an origin story. Drop the explanations seamlessly into the plot if you need to. Explain the power by having Kilowog training new lanterns for examples during a scene of Hal visiting Oa. Drop a mention of Abin Sur's death and passing on the ring as he chats with Tomar-re. Etc.... Saves you more time to have a more meaningful plot, and develop complex villains like Sinestro.

edited 15th Sep '11 10:25:44 AM by Ghilz

C0mraid from Here and there Since: Aug, 2010
#9: Sep 15th 2011 at 1:26:46 PM

I also believe there is no need for a reboot. As bad as the Green Lantern film was it should be very easy to salvage. Pretty much all the bad things about the film have no reason to be carried forward into the sequel.

The worst thing for me was the dialouge and lack of coherence to the plot, but hiring better writers should solve that problem instantly. The dodgy romance and friendship can be saved by being made more believable or completely forgotten. Amanda Waller can be recast or dropped. The Black Hand and Parallax were badly used, but Sinestro has been set up as tge next villain and he was the best thing about the last film.

Edit: Just to be clear, I don't think this has to be a pseudo sequel. It should, if the right creative team are hired, to make a straight up suprisingly improved sequel.

edited 15th Sep '11 1:30:44 PM by C0mraid

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NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#10: Sep 18th 2011 at 7:46:08 AM

Sorry for the tangent, but if Superman Returns was so successful, why didn't we have a sequel and why are they making this Man of Steel thing? A movie can make a lot of money without being a "success".

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Sep 18th 2011 at 9:21:26 AM

^ As already noted, Superman Returns, while moderately successful, was a new installment of a film series that started decades ago - that I can understand rebooting the continuity for, as they've already done so much with that universe.

Not to mention they want something to tie into their new (also possibly ill advised) Batman continuity, which they can't easily do with the preexisting continuity.

InverurieJones '80s TV Action Hero from North of the Wall. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#12: Sep 18th 2011 at 9:23:00 AM

Why do they need to keep churning out formulaic superhero films at all?

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zam Since: Jun, 2009
#13: Sep 18th 2011 at 11:38:32 AM

Cause they sell that might be our fault.

Shota Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#14: Sep 18th 2011 at 11:40:10 AM

I like reboots if the original version was made decades from then. However, I have always been against reboots that only come a few years after it (The Incredible Hulk, Spider-Man). If the filmmakers screwed up, that should be it. No more of that title! Sorry. The audiences shouldn't be seeing Spidey again!

NULLcHiLD27 Since: Oct, 2010
#15: Sep 18th 2011 at 11:53:08 AM

If the filmmakers screwed up, that should be it. No more of that title! Sorry. The audiences shouldn't be seeing Spidey again!

Why shouldn't they see Spidey again? Because Spider-Man 3 wasn't the best movie ever that mean that it's ruined forever and Spider-Man 4 couldn't have been better?

edited 18th Sep '11 11:53:32 AM by NULLcHiLD27

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#17: Sep 18th 2011 at 12:04:11 PM

[up]So even though the first 2 Spider-Man films were great, just because the 3rd was okay the entire series should just end without even seeing whether they can pick the ball back up or not?

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#18: Sep 18th 2011 at 12:09:23 PM

I thought the reason Spider-Man is being rebooted has more to do with a new director wanting their own take on things.

Shota Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#19: Sep 18th 2011 at 1:00:21 PM

[up][up]Well, we have two great Spider-Man movies. That sounds fine to me!

NULLcHiLD27 Since: Oct, 2010
#20: Sep 18th 2011 at 1:25:06 PM

[up][up]We're talking about Shota's idea that a franchise should end just because one movie wasn't great, again, even though the first two were great and the third wasn't even that bad and that there was (in at least Sam Raimi's Spider-Man's case) a better chance of a fourth great film than of a worse.

As for rebooting Green Lantern, why? How about you wait a film and see if they can't get their shit together first?

Shota Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#21: Sep 18th 2011 at 1:30:57 PM

You know the Green Lantern film was bad because the distributor edited it themselves after the director's version, right? Unfortunate. That still doesn't excuse how it came out.

NULLcHiLD27 Since: Oct, 2010
#22: Sep 18th 2011 at 1:47:58 PM

the Green Lantern film was bad because the distributor edited it themselves

If the distributor fucked it up, then what's a reboot gonna fix?

edited 18th Sep '11 2:05:25 PM by NULLcHiLD27

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#23: Sep 18th 2011 at 3:29:08 PM

The distributor also forced the director to cast Ryan Reynolds in the lead. Reportedly, DC and the director were courting Chris Pine for the lead.

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EnglishMajor All haill Atroticus! from The 5th Circle of Hell Since: Aug, 2010
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#25: Sep 19th 2011 at 11:58:40 AM

[up][up]I have a feeling that Chris Pine would have be a better choice.

And to the argument why it's in the best interest for a distributor (WB) to make another iteration of a failed IP (Green Lantern)? Well...

It's imperative that DC meets Marvel's current successes and to that end it would be ideal to form a four-man film team to match Marvel's: Supes, Bats, Flash, and Greenie to match Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, and Captain America. DC and Warner Bros has potential here and they can take advantage of it; GL is integral to that.

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