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Demetrios Making Unicorns Cool Again Since 2010 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
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#3226: Apr 12th 2018 at 6:40:11 PM

I had this idea recently after reading the YMMV page. Which version had the best version of Rei? I remember the first English dub, like the page said, had the relationship between Usagi and Rei having too much "vitriol" and not enough "best buds." So which version handled it better?

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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#3227: Apr 14th 2018 at 8:30:54 AM

[up] In my opinion, I like Japanese '90s anime Rei best.

The manga's, and by extension Crystal's, Rei is a bit too bland for me. I've seen the Aloof Dark-Haired Girl trope used plenty of times. It's nice in those series but with Rei, she's more fun when she's a foil to Usagi. I like her temper, her attitude, and her personality best in the '90s anime. It's a shame that it isn't used elsewhere.

edited 14th Apr '18 8:31:51 AM by Pichu-kun

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
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#3228: Apr 14th 2018 at 11:46:23 AM

I seem to recall she had some temper in PGSM, but I think it was mostly focused on Minako.

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KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#3229: Apr 14th 2018 at 5:26:47 PM

[up] Both the Live Action and the original had the benefit of time. They weren't running a manga chapter per episode so they needed filler, but in the end, they made (most) of it work to their advantage by fleshing out the characterisation of the Ami, Rei, Makoto and Minako.

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#3230: Apr 14th 2018 at 5:33:15 PM

This is True... I mean

The Minions are much more memorable due to being fleshed out as well... or at least being around long enough to have a distinct personality instead of be instantly killed by the Senshi's new attack.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#3231: Apr 14th 2018 at 5:58:01 PM

or at least being around long enough to have a distinct personality instead of be instantly killed by the Senshi's Sailor Moon's new attack.

Since they opted to not kill off the Generals right away(only to do a mass bridge dropping), this is more appropriate.

edited 14th Apr '18 5:58:43 PM by HandsomeRob

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#3232: Apr 14th 2018 at 6:03:36 PM

[up]God I love you for saying that.

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#3233: Apr 14th 2018 at 11:10:48 PM

IDK

The Shitennou starting to get their memories back thing could have been interesting... but I think Takeuchi realized she had written herself into a corner...

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3234: Apr 15th 2018 at 5:35:21 AM

Repost from previous page... So, this isn't a trivia thread, but can it be?

What's the source for this part of the Manga.Sailor Moon entry from Sailor Fuku?

the sailor-suit concept comes from ancestral memories of the heroes' uniform, not vice-versa.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#3235: Apr 15th 2018 at 7:43:51 AM

IDK The Shitennou starting to get their memories back thing could have been interesting... but I think Takeuchi realized she had written herself into a corner...

How involved was Takeuchi in Crystal? Wasn't it just Toei doing everything and following the story more closely this time?

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3236: Apr 15th 2018 at 7:48:48 AM

[up] - I think they meant that she killed them off as a way of escaping the problem of the aftermath of regaining their memories.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#3237: Apr 15th 2018 at 9:56:32 AM

[up]

I see. Was that because she wanted Usagi and Mamoru as the only couple in the series, or did she think all of the Princess' guards conveniently falling in love with all of the Princes guards too...I guess cliche, but that doesn't seem like the right word honestly.

Did she think it would make the cast too big? What?

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3238: Apr 15th 2018 at 10:56:09 AM

[up] - Maybe it'd break the plot by revealing info too soon? Depending on when the memories are regained, it could be another way of revealing the Moon Princess or something...

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Demetrios Making Unicorns Cool Again Since 2010 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
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#3239: Jul 30th 2018 at 11:54:44 PM

Bump. I saw a double feature of the first and second Sailor Moon movies in the original Japanese earlier tonight. It was a lot of fun. :)

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3240: Aug 24th 2018 at 7:43:58 PM

Confirm / deny please:

World of No Grandparents applies to Sailor Moon, because Grandpa Hino is the only grandparent that's seen in the franchise?

Edited by Malady on Aug 24th 2018 at 7:46:06 AM

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#3241: Aug 24th 2018 at 7:48:53 PM

That would depend on whether the trope title is meant to be literal (meaning a story doesn't fit the trope if there is at least one grandparent in it) or examples where only a few grandparents are shown still count, since Grandpa Hino's existence would mean that the series has at least one character who is a grandparent.

Technically, Ikuko and Kenji are grandparents too, but since we don't see them in Crystal Tokyo, I'm not sure if they count or not (since we only see them with Chibi-Usa when she travels to the past).

Edited by Rainbow on Aug 24th 2018 at 10:01:39 AM

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
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#3242: Oct 27th 2018 at 5:42:32 PM

I'm sure some of you may have heard that Sailor Moon Crystal was just dubbed in Mexico for a Latin American Spanish release. The first six episodes were streamed on Azteca 7 this afternoon. Not to mention that it uses the original Japanese names.

Edited by gjjones on Oct 27th 2018 at 8:45:08 AM

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#3243: Jun 7th 2019 at 5:47:47 PM

So, Sailor Moon Another Story got a fan retranslation. Follows Viz's terms and guidelines as a base and fixed the untranslated Japanese and terrible sentence structure of the original. No honorifics, though they opt for Soldier rather than Guardian. To my surprise the liner notes explained that one as a practical choice with character limits.

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#3244: Jun 8th 2019 at 1:44:37 AM

My most fave troper just gave me the news I've been wanting to hear for quite a while. I couldnt stand the Honorifics in a Video Game that isnt a Persona game.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#3245: Jun 30th 2019 at 8:21:40 AM

SUDDENLY A (2-PART) MOVIE.

Toei recently announced that in 2020, there will be a 2 part movie project called Sailor Moon Eternal!

The first visual shows Usagi and Chibi-Usa looking even more like they did in the original anime because the movie's bringing in the character designer for the original anime, Kazuko Tadano!

Also of note:

(Paging the Viz dub girls, you'll be needed again shortly!)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jun 30th 2019 at 11:43:51 AM

Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#3246: Jun 30th 2019 at 8:24:29 AM

Anyone else in the US gone to stores and found S or movie dvds, but not anything else? Is there a reason behind that? I've seen the movies or S season on sale but never the first season or full series.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#3247: Jun 30th 2019 at 10:34:13 AM

Films might not really cover everything in the arc, but that's the best we can do I suppose after Crystal itself bombed.

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
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#3248: Jun 30th 2019 at 10:42:21 AM

The Dead Moon arc was the weakest arc of the manga and anime so no surprise about them not wanting to do another season after Crystal's flop. Looks like they're listening to the complaints about the art to some extent though.

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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#3249: Jun 30th 2019 at 11:20:09 AM

[up][up] Did it bomb? It seemed popular and lasted more than one season.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#3250: Jun 30th 2019 at 11:23:56 AM

Well, I got the impression people weren't very fond of it, but that was mostly here.

Plus getting more seasons may not 100% reflect quality, especially if it's riding off the popularity of other parts of the brand.

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