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Sep 13th 2011 at 4:41:12 AM

Does this article have a point other than "Here's a list of people named Jack"? I'm not really seeing that it describes an actual trope.

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Sep 13th 2011 at 8:11:57 AM

Seconded. This is Trivia, at best, and People Sit On Chairs at worst.

Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
Sep 13th 2011 at 8:14:17 AM

Yeah, now that I think about it, it could use a reworking to "this type of character tends to be named Jack" if possible and a cut if not.

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Sep 13th 2011 at 10:44:11 AM

It also has potential as a kind of Stock trope - though I not exactly sure whether Stock pages are trivia or not - Jack is a fairly ubiquitous Stock Name in fiction, dating back decades if not centuries. Jack, John, Johnny, etc - that name is everywhere, and I feel kind of safe in assuming it's the most common name in fiction.

It's a fall back name, a symbolic name, a relgious name, a historical name, or just a name, and writers use it like it's going out of style.

edited 13th Sep '11 10:45:38 AM by KnownUnknown

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Sep 13th 2011 at 11:43:18 AM

So what about Jack's older brother Bob?

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Sep 13th 2011 at 11:50:03 AM

Looking only at the description (I didn't dare to brave the examples), it does look pretty bad. It basically boils down to "Jack is a common name in Anglo-Saxon fiction". And?

I have the hypothesis that Jack (and Jake) might be common names for an Action Hero, but I don't have enough examples to back it up. As it is, though, the trope seems nearly worthless to me.

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Sep 13th 2011 at 11:50:46 AM

This does not look like a trope to me. Cut it if you can't isolate some factor here that does make it one.

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Sep 13th 2011 at 12:10:29 PM

I'd say that single syllable names are common for action heroes. It allows their names to be shouted at the top of lungs for dramatic effect.

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Sep 13th 2011 at 12:35:23 PM

^ That's a trope.

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Sep 13th 2011 at 12:43:38 PM

I've heard it suggested (in-universe, even) that Jack is a standard name for the plucky underdog type of hero (Jack and the Beanstalk, Jack the Giant-Killer). In Charles De Lint's Jack of Kinrowan, the name has mutated into a title for human heroes of this type among The Fair Folk (although the protagonist is a woman actually named Jackie).

Still, that doesn't seem to be this trope. But a trope similar to Alice Allusion about allusions to the Beanstalk/Giant-Killer character might be a valid trope. Captain Jack (any of the flavors shown) wouldn't fit that, though, I don't think.

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Sep 13th 2011 at 12:51:40 PM

The description seems to be getting at something with "Jack is a name for chaotic badasses" but the examples don't follow suit, it's just a list of people named Jack including Jack Dawson of Titanic. With Everythings Better With Bob it is about the use of the name Bob for comedic effect.

edited 13th Sep '11 12:51:59 PM by KJMackley

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Sep 13th 2011 at 12:53:30 PM

[up][up] Actually I have seen a lot like that, ones who are Charles Atlas Superpower at the most, These guys have to work for their stuff.

[up] There is that too alot are quite chaotic. (In various ways)

edited 13th Sep '11 12:55:49 PM by Raso

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland
Sep 21st 2011 at 6:15:31 PM

There is now a page action crowner for this trope here. Feel free to add options as you see fit.

Jack Attack found in: 210 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 934 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

edited 21st Sep '11 6:16:00 PM by LouieW

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Sep 21st 2011 at 11:30:04 PM

Yeah, this isn't a trope unless there's a specific reason for "Jack". Could just be a subpage for Name's the Same, really.

Sep 22nd 2011 at 11:03:56 PM

Looks like there's a consensus to cut this thing. Sending this to the cutlist

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Sep 22nd 2011 at 11:06:33 PM

It's been cut. Time to remove the wicks.

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Sep 22nd 2011 at 11:11:24 PM

Ah yes...awkward...cutting the page disables the related search...

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