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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#26: Sep 10th 2011 at 11:42:11 PM

[up]Hm. Regeneration—as I see it—isn't a set process. Ten, for example, doesn't have it programmed into him that the next Doctor has longer hair, a younger face, etc.—so therefore someone regenerating before their time could result in someone completely different.

The problem is this means getting rid of one of the originals in favor of someone completely different. Not good for a celebration of the show's history.

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#27: Sep 10th 2011 at 11:42:49 PM

@TParadox: That'd be really weird and interesting!

Actually, I kind of want to see them figure out a way to do an animated 50 special. That way you can get actors in that would look too old, and plus that allows for The Other Darrin to be less jarring in the cases where it has to happen. Maybe some sort of head-trip episode?

edited 10th Sep '11 11:43:15 PM by Sporkaganza

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#29: Sep 10th 2011 at 11:45:26 PM

Well... yeah, actually. Sort of like Amy's Choice, only not like that, forget I said that, it has nothing to do with that. I didn't mean to confuse you, sorry.

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#31: Sep 10th 2011 at 11:46:30 PM

The Daleks try to get rid of the Doctor permanently by kidnapping all his incarnations and killing them off in reverse order. They succeed in the first phase but one jumps the gun and kills off 3 first. The Daleks start attacking confusedly, with 1 and 2 being killed but every Doctor after three is only aged by the Dalek beams until 11 who is apparently immune (despite this effect never coming up before, ever.) The Master shows up in a very early incarnation, pre-Delgado even, and is confused greatly over the course of the story. One or more of the Doctors escape only to remember that they should really help the others escape too, and go get help. Madame Kovarian's lot probably show up for no adequetly explained reason, because who cares. At some point either 10 or 11 tells the Daleks it's no use trying to wipe out the Doctor entirely because Donna Noble and the alternate universe... wait, forget that. But it's too late! The Daleks kidnap Donna Noble and start working on that breaking-through-the-universes thing. Donna's head-splody-thingy knocks a bunch of Daleks. When she wakes up, don't worry, she's not going to die straight away. She's got at least one stop-the-Daleks scheme in her before that. For example, did you know that apparently Dalek time machines are sort of similar to paradox machines? You have to break them in just the right way, but they do the rewindy thingy really well. 11 gets the honours of eye of the storm actually remembering rights. And yes of course she's happy! Now hurry up.

Alternatively, something involving the Valeyard. Preferably with very unreliable boasts of having set up absolutely every far-fetched coincidence in... well, the whole series if they want to be really ambitious, last 7 otherwise.

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#33: Sep 11th 2011 at 12:03:52 AM

@Wack'd: That's where I got the idea!

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#34: Sep 11th 2011 at 12:09:01 AM

I remember the other anniversary plot I came up with a few days ago...

(Well, it doesn't have to be an anniversary plot.)

I don't want to see Smith leave any time soon (doggone it, I want somebody else to join Tom Baker in breaking out of the three-to-four year limit), but this would play off of whoever is the Doctor at the time deciding to leave, and then immediately doing a special episode with whomever's cast to replace him.

Yes, like The Next Doctor, only actually the next Doctor.

Even better, two or three Doctors down the line, only you'd have to get timey-wimey on their casting because they're almost certainly not going to play the actual role.

Alternatively, have the Doctor regenerate a little before the anniversary, and then immediately bring the last one back (call it The Last Doctor). Alternatively to that alternative, have the Doctor have a gap of a few weeks to months a short time before his regeneration, and then regenerate and do a portion of a season where it turns out what he was doing was assisting his next self as his own Companion.

Hm. Perhaps not. Not only is that reminiscent of something I think the Master did, it hits very close to home this week.

Hm... how's this for a new twist on the multi-Doctor special? A collision between the New Who Doctors and Richard Grant (Ninth), Rowan Atkinson, Richard Grant (Tenth), Jim Broadbent, Hugh Grant, Joanna Lumley, and Patterson Joseph.

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#35: Sep 11th 2011 at 12:12:38 AM

Another permutation of the first idea of my last post: a little before the anniversary, the Doctor regenerates. He's played... off. (Or more off than usual.)

In the anniversary, all the previous Doctors and Companions you can get are thrown into a room with him, and realize he's so off he's... something, something, he gets erased and the previous one comes back for a few more seasons of adventures.

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#36: Sep 11th 2011 at 12:46:08 AM

Forgot one in my Alternatives plot. Paul Mc Gann (audio) meets Paul Mc Gann (novels) meets Paul Mc Gann (comics). That's the way to go if you want to make it up to him (or kill him).

It ends with the three of him working together to use the Moment and being merged in the regenerative process.

edited 11th Sep '11 12:48:24 AM by TParadox

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#37: Sep 11th 2011 at 12:58:52 AM

That'd be kind of funny. It would require some on-screen handwaving.

"There was a war on. I needed three of me running about so I could do my duty to Gallifrey and have my regular allotment of shenanigans. Well, technically 2.89 but that's slightly more difficult to pull off."

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#38: Sep 11th 2011 at 1:43:44 AM

Faction Paradox would get involved, but licensing.

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#39: Sep 11th 2011 at 1:52:52 AM

Come to think of it, does Eight have any companions who could show up? Even Grace is owned by Fox.

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#40: Sep 11th 2011 at 1:55:18 AM

They could make one up. Or allude to one of his other companions as being just off-screen.

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#41: Sep 11th 2011 at 2:24:57 AM

Use one of the ones from the audios. Or novels. Or cartoons or whatever.

And get that "What is canon?" debate going again.

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#42: Sep 11th 2011 at 2:45:54 AM

[up]No, see, those characters are owned by the company that made them. Licensing them could be a nightmare, and if they are going to license characters they don't own may as well make it Grace.

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#43: Sep 11th 2011 at 3:01:52 AM

Except, the difference between Grace and say, Charlotte Pollard, is that the people who created Charlotte are closely tied with the show as it is now (one of them is the guy who plays the Daleks/Silence/Cybermen, and another is the actual guy who operates the Daleks), and Grace is owned by Fox.

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#44: Sep 11th 2011 at 3:04:21 AM

[up]Still costs money. Granted, probably not a lot of money, but given how much will probably be spent in general...

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#45: Sep 11th 2011 at 3:09:46 AM

At least some of the books are actually licensed by the BBC.

And to get back to an earlier discussion, there was at one point a book in which a past Doctor regenerated into a different person than was "canon".

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#46: Sep 11th 2011 at 5:46:38 AM

(These are in response to the main Doctor Who thread before it split)

I know she died in the Expanded Universe, but Liz was apparently alive and working on a UNIT Moonbase seven years later according to The Sarah Jane Adventures.

Frazer Hines and Wendy Padbury are alive, but they wouldn't remember their travels with the Doctor, would they?

If Tom could work with him for an entire season after that...

He didn't. Adric joined midway through Baker's last season. I'm sure Tom decided to leave for reasons unrelated to Matthew Waterhouse, but still.

Geoffrey Beavers could still play the Master. Married to Caroline John, has four previous entries with the role. Fantastic voice, only needs the facial decay make-up.

And according to the Expanded Universe, he's technically the Third Doctor-era Master, just extra crispy. Their two pages were merged on the TARDIS wiki very recently.

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Think some of the Author Tract in his era might've been his fault?

No, as good as stuff like Spearhead and Talons of Weng Chiang was, I think we can blame the vegetarianism tract on Robert Holmes, not Colin. If he had more way, he'd probably have been Nine on a lower budget.

No, see, those characters are owned by the company that made them. Licensing them could be a nightmare, and if they are going to license characters they don't own may as well make it Grace.

At least some of the books are actually licensed by the BBC.

The BBC made ALL the Eighth Doctor novels (okay, I think Virgin Publishing made one or two really early ones), so I don't see the issue with that.

Except, the difference between Grace and say, Charlotte Pollard, is that the people who created Charlotte are closely tied with the show as it is now (one of them is the guy who plays the Daleks/Silence/Cybermen

Nicholas Briggs didn't voice the Silence.

Anyway, I'd love to see Allison and the Shalka Ninth Doctor for the anniversary, (from the last anniversary special) but that might be a bit too far.

An appearance of all companions that'd be in Amy's (or whoever's the companion in series 7/8) time would be cool too.

edited 11th Sep '11 5:53:37 AM by OldManHoOh

Fusionman Since: Nov, 2009
#47: Sep 11th 2011 at 8:42:01 AM

According to Sarah Jane Adventures Ace/Dorothy is running an orphanage so...

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#48: Sep 11th 2011 at 8:42:56 AM

In my heart, I believe that she is training the orphans into the most kickass team of mercenaries ever.

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#49: Sep 11th 2011 at 8:43:32 AM

Orphan Mercs? That's morally wrong I think. tongue

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#50: Sep 11th 2011 at 8:53:59 AM

Mercenaries is probably the wrong word. Basically, Ace would have trained the orphans to be badasses so that no matter what they did, they could do it with style and explosions.

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