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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#176: Mar 29th 2013 at 11:41:46 AM

This kinda bugs me. If Ultra-Car got a male body, would anyone be saying UC got in touch with UC's masculine side?

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Matues Since: Sep, 2011
#177: Mar 29th 2013 at 11:44:28 AM

Yes.

Because Ultracar doesn't have a previously established gender that I know of.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#178: Mar 29th 2013 at 12:41:36 PM

[up]That was his point.

But that begs the question: is that really true? Sure, logically speaking, Ultra-Car did not have a biological gender(until now?). But are we sure no character ever refereed to 'her' as male in the past?

I frankly don't remember, but it is silly to complain people assumed 'she' was male if the comic itself lead ourselves to think that way.

(not to mention we don't know what the deal with this new body yet, so we can't really say for sure Ultra-Car is actually female yet.)

PS:Just checked. Lucy refereed to 'her' as "he" in this page. So, unless we can find somewhere else in which Ultra-Car is refereed as female, 'she' did have an established gender before,and this gender was male.

PPS:And Joe himself called Ultra-Car "son" at last once.

edited 29th Mar '13 1:02:53 PM by Heatth

Khantalas E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered from More sheep than people (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered
#179: Mar 29th 2013 at 4:44:42 PM

I don't know about "son", but "he" can be legitimately used in a gender-neutral fashion, grammatically speaking.

Anyway, I doubt Ultra-car actually cares about what the body looks like to others, besides "human". I think it's just a tool for him. I might be proven wrong, of course.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#180: Mar 29th 2013 at 5:00:30 PM

I don't know about "son", but "he" can be legitimately used in a gender-neutral fashion, grammatically speaking.

I thought the correct would say "they" in those cases.

But, anyway, my point is that it is silly to say there is no indication of Ultra Car having a gender when, in fact, there is. Everyone talked of her*

as she was male until now. It might be only because male is the default state of English language, but it still doesn't change the fact that all indications pointed to Ultra Car being male. Therefore, Wack'd complains about people joking about the gender change is out of place, since it was a gender change.

I do agree Ultra Car herself probably don't give a damn one way or another, though.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#181: Apr 1st 2013 at 11:49:21 PM

New page.

Ultra-Car gender is discussed, Malaya raises "important" questions and Robin is awesome.

But none of this is what really caught my attention today. The banner have been updated to show UC's new form, suggesting, therefore, that this is, in fact, permanent. More importantly, however, is that Ethan is gone, replaced by Ken. Now, I wonder, what can this mean? Will Ethan abandon the main cast, like Amber and Mike did? That would be an interesting development. I wonder if Robin is next?

Maybe I am over thinking it, though. How often are these banners updated, anyway? Do they actually reflect accurately the direction the comic is going?

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#182: Apr 2nd 2013 at 12:53:17 AM

[up]

How often are these banners updated, anyway? Do they actually reflect accurately the direction the comic is going?
Rarely and yes.

edited 2nd Apr '13 12:54:18 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#183: Apr 2nd 2013 at 10:01:48 PM

Page. My Sensors Indicate You Want to Tap That. With "that" being me.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#184: Apr 2nd 2013 at 10:07:21 PM

Yeah, this will work out well.tongue I am sensing a common theme here and in Dumbing Of Age. Both features a confuse girl coming on someone who can't be sexually interested on them.

But this cast a new light Malaya I think. It will probably work about as well as her relationship with Leslie, but I am interested in seeing how she will develop in future.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#185: Apr 15th 2013 at 9:13:27 PM

Farewell.

Such an important moment in the comic. We can't just leave it without any comment or whatsoever.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#186: Apr 16th 2013 at 1:04:03 AM

Yeah, isn't Ethan, like, the last of the original SP cast? (excluding Galasso, of course)

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#187: Apr 16th 2013 at 2:13:10 AM

[up]Nope. We still have Robin (plus Ninja Rick).

But, yeah, Ethan have been one of the cornerstones of the comic since the beginning.

edited 16th Apr '13 2:13:22 AM by Heatth

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#188: Apr 16th 2013 at 8:53:21 AM

Robin isn't quite "original". I mean, three comics in isn't a huge difference but you've got to remember Ethan and Amber were there for about five years before she arrived and Rick has outlasted all of them.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#189: Apr 16th 2013 at 10:02:55 AM

[up]What, no. Ethan and Amber were there for about two pages before Robing shown up. She was there right from the start, unless you want to be really pedantic about what count as "start". She is older than Ninja Rick.

Khantalas E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered from More sheep than people (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered
#191: Apr 16th 2013 at 10:30:48 AM

Also, I doubt Ethan is completely leaving Shortpacked! the comic, just Shortpacked! the store. He might show up less often, but I doubt his story is completely resolved like Mike and Amber's.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#192: Apr 16th 2013 at 11:30:40 AM

[up][up]Well, I guess you are right then, but this is quite irrelevant to the question. If you want to go by the chronological view to adress who is "the original SP cast", then I have to point they were quite obviously not there for the foundation of the store, so only Galasso is a "original member".

But more importantly, I am fairly sure Medinoc is talking about the comic, not the store. Robin is there since the beginning and, so, she is one of the original member.

[up]I am not so sure. This do seem like a goodbye story to me. I believe this final storyline for him will end with him settled down and resolved with his boyfriend and job. Which is cool. He deserves a conclusion. He will likely still keep appearing here and there, but mostly as a supporting character, I think.

I can be wrong, of course, but he is out of the banner already and got an awesome whole page panel for himself. The signs are there.

edited 16th Apr '13 11:32:03 AM by Heatth

ArcanGenth Since: Aug, 2009
#193: Apr 16th 2013 at 11:32:36 AM

New page
And now he's walking in the light and enjoying life.

...any bets how far he makes it before he's hit by a bus?

edited 16th Apr '13 11:33:01 AM by ArcanGenth

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#194: Apr 16th 2013 at 11:37:37 AM

[up]You do realize we are talking about it already, right?

ArcanGenth Since: Aug, 2009
#195: Apr 16th 2013 at 12:07:07 PM

I did not see the link, I thought we were still discussing the previous page. My mistake, my apologies.


My snark about the bus stands. :P

Khantalas E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered from More sheep than people (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#197: Apr 17th 2013 at 9:18:02 PM

[up]Not only that, check the alt text.

I still think this will be his "final" arc, though. It is just the end won't come so easily.

Khantalas E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered from More sheep than people (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered
#198: Apr 17th 2013 at 10:36:53 PM

I can't see the hover text on the iPad. What does it say?

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#199: Apr 17th 2013 at 10:40:48 PM

well i've transformed him five times now what do i do

Khantalas E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered from More sheep than people (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered
#200: Apr 22nd 2013 at 1:39:09 AM

So! Apparently Ethan needs something to be passionate about in his life? Otherwise he can't perform (that's what he said)?

Let's see how Drew will stop being a mighty asshole, and how Ethan will get his mojo back.


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