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Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy
Jan 1st 2021 at 9:14:51 PM

It looks like it might be starting to resolve. I'm guessing it'll be related to how Dorothy fills a type of friendship that Becky is seemingly incapable of managing. Becky can be fun and impulsive and lead to a lot of memorable shenanigans, but Dorothy is the friend you can rely on to really help in a crisis. And I think Becky probably feels incredibly insecure about that, especially since impulsive fun is really not helpful when someone is having a crisis of faith.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Jan 1st 2021 at 10:13:27 PM

... You know, I've been on Dorothy's side of being the reasonable person when someone else just wants to be mad for a while. It's incredibly satisfying to be perfectly reasonable, but sometimes, I do feel like it may kind of hit a level of gaslighting where you're discounting the other person's valid feelings by disarming them of their attacks.

I don't know... it's in a weird position where if someone is attacking you, it's good to defend yourself, but if you're casually slapping their punches away while smiling as if to congratulate them on their puny efforts, you're the bad guy? Because they have valid beefs with the world, and just because they don't really apply to you, it feels like making them seem ineffectual is by proxy indicating that their beef, and thereby their feelings, are invalid.

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C-E-O-3, H-N-I-C
Jan 1st 2021 at 10:19:51 PM

On the other hand, it's a bad idea to let someone hit you cause you're the only convenient, nearby target.

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FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Jan 1st 2021 at 10:28:21 PM

{nods} It's a tough situation to be in when the person attacking you is relatively ineffectual. E.g., current society, a guy is expected to largely ignore a girl hitting him, sometimes to the point where she is actually inflicting damage, but on the flipside, you get the "I'd totally hit a girl" crowd where they'll take the ineffectual slaps to their shoulders and return a right hook to the jaw.

Kind of parallel, in martial arts in general, when more experienced, you don't smash the newbie attacking you, but you need to provide some snapback so that they don't think that they can attack without consequence.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile
Jan 2nd 2021 at 1:51:33 AM

Comparing it to gaslighting goes too far, though.

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smokeycut Not Your Atom Bomb Baby from Rochester NY Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Not Your Atom Bomb Baby
Jan 2nd 2021 at 4:51:31 AM

Oh yay, Iím right. Love being right.

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FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Jan 2nd 2021 at 11:13:04 AM

[up][up] Yeah, I guess gaslighting usually involves an intentional attempt to deceive and manipulate, but there is that foggy area where you make someone feel ineffectual by basically making molehills out of their mountains. It can be a bunch of microagressions that are not intended. If you're having trouble opening a jar and someone walks in and just pops it open, them saying "Oh, was that so hard?" or an insincere "You loosened it for me" is a more intentional dig at the other person for their weakness, but walking in, opening it, and just handing it to them is a perfectly reasonable "I fixed your problem for you" but as a continuing pattern, reinforces the other person feeling their weakness.

CountofBleck Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting from A world of lies and deception Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Jan 3rd 2021 at 3:42:18 AM

...sigh. Lesson successfuly dodged. Yaaaaaaay.

Jan 3rd 2021 at 7:19:39 AM

The lesson is getting Joyce into glasses, not dispelling the imaginary feud.

Also thought: What's guaranteeing Joyce will even wear the glasses once she gets them? This isn't Dr. Stone where the girl getting glasses for the first time is this amazing mindblow of a moment for the kid. Joyce is on record as against clarity of vision (metaphorically, which she is making literal)

You know how in "Eragon" everyone cries 'a single tear'? Yeah, just TRY that in "One Piece" and see if it works. - Formerly Narm Charm
Jan 3rd 2021 at 8:02:08 AM

Could also have worked as a lesson on how the pointless imaginary feud was stopping Becky from focusing on helping her friend. But whatever.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
smokeycut Not Your Atom Bomb Baby from Rochester NY Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Not Your Atom Bomb Baby
Jan 4th 2021 at 5:00:38 AM

Oh, I hate that test so much. You end up struggling to hold your eye open until youíre starting to tear up, and then bam. Now thereís air in it.

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Jan 4th 2021 at 5:17:14 AM

Am I the only one who read the Alt Text and thought of Superfudge the children's book?

You know how in "Eragon" everyone cries 'a single tear'? Yeah, just TRY that in "One Piece" and see if it works. - Formerly Narm Charm
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
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Jan 5th 2021 at 10:36:50 AM

In fairness to Joyce, that thing SUUUUUUCKS. Or blows as the case may be. Either way, I've had that exact conversation before, I'm pretty sure.

Spindriver Fanatical Dabbler from UK
Fanatical Dabbler
Jan 5th 2021 at 3:00:10 PM

Really? Iíve never found those gadgets a big deal. But then again, Iím permanently on eye drops to keep the pressure in one of my eyeballs under control and prevent nerve damage (I hope), so my general feeling is that Joyce can cut out the damn babyish whining.

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God_of_Awesome Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Jan 5th 2021 at 6:45:16 PM

Well then you're probably inured. The rest of us haven't had the "blessing" of being as toughened up as you.

smokeycut Not Your Atom Bomb Baby from Rochester NY Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Not Your Atom Bomb Baby
Jan 5th 2021 at 7:09:44 PM

Yeah, Iíve worn glasses since I was about 8 years old or so, and Iíve never gotten used to the air puff test. It always fucks with me and leaves me with my eyes watering really badly.

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Yinyang107 from the True North Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
Jan 5th 2021 at 7:14:05 PM

I've gotten eye tests every few years most of my life and I don't think I've ever been subjected to the air puff.

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FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Jan 5th 2021 at 7:34:45 PM

It's used to test intraocular pressure, primarily for glaucoma. At one point, it was considered to be a "premium" test, so it was often not done at locations like Wal-Mart, particularly if you didn't have any other symptoms of glaucoma, it might be skipped until you're older. Me, I'm "lucky enough" to have deep optic nerve cupping, which is considered to be high risk for glaucoma. My eye doctor has also switched to the applanation tonometry test, which does not involve an eye puff, but does involve drops to dilate the eyes.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
Jan 6th 2021 at 2:12:10 AM Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Jan 6th 2021 at 2:49:19 AM

Even Becky is calling Joyce out for being a baby...

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love

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