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Gamabunta Lurker that doesn´t lurk from The very end o the world Since: Feb, 2010
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#176: Sep 9th 2011 at 2:23:49 PM

Pêrhaps finishing the details for the crimson psychopaths? Like squad/ solo mode abilities and such.

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Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#177: Sep 9th 2011 at 2:26:56 PM

Crimson Hounds should get a close-combat anti-infantry predator variant with an enormous vehicle-mounted scattergun (shotgun).

Anyways, I think that whatever happens, the Ghostwalkers need to be developed by Tropers. If there are any tropers on /tg who don't know about the Ghostwalkers and want to help, that's fine, but all changes to this chapter WILL happen in this thread.

edited 9th Sep '11 2:28:45 PM by Pyroninja42

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arcsquad12 The Inheritor from Monument of Sins Since: Feb, 2011
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#178: Sep 9th 2011 at 2:30:17 PM

What if the Crimson Hounds got access to Baal Pattern Predators because of their "heritage" towards the Blood Angels thattotallyisn'tacoverupfortheDamnedMen.

Do not be so quick to make foolish offers, Daemon. Araghast too once thought I would be an asset to his cause. Look what has become of him.
Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#179: Sep 9th 2011 at 2:40:22 PM

Or maybe something called the Land Raider Devastator, with assault cannon sponsons and a twinlinked autocannon in the front.

Or maybe something called the Land Raider Invader, where it forgoes a front-mounted primary weapon for a "citadel" with firing ports for the transported troops.

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Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
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#180: Sep 9th 2011 at 3:11:17 PM

I'm also thinking that the Hounds don't bother with Scouts at all, and leave all the sneaking to the Walkers. That, and the lack of Librarians, should balance out their massive frontline firepower.

edited 9th Sep '11 3:18:35 PM by Neo_Crimson

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#181: Sep 10th 2011 at 4:37:05 AM

Here's my proposition for the Stalker-pattern Boltgun:

Range: 36", S4 AP 5, either Heavy 2 or Rapid-Fire, Pinning.

Special characters and Command Squads get a version with Rending and Sternguard-style special ammo.

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#182: Sep 10th 2011 at 6:57:25 AM

I was thinking more "Crimson Hounds use Codex organisation with one minor deviation". Not having Scouts is pretty major.

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Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
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#183: Sep 10th 2011 at 7:19:17 AM

There's a dedicated Sniper weapon class in the rule book. Shouldn't it be classified as that?

[up]They already don't have Librarians, so...

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#184: Sep 10th 2011 at 7:47:40 AM

[up] Well, the Stalker-pattern Boltgun is a weapon of Torias Telion in the S Murf codex. It's sort of a mix between a Sniper Rifle and a Boltgun. I used that as a basis, but nerfed it a bit, because having an entire army with Rending weapons would be a pain for anyone using METAHL BOXES.

edited 10th Sep '11 7:49:12 AM by math792d

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#185: Sep 10th 2011 at 8:29:26 AM

Speaking of BAWKSES, what's our stance on Rhinos? How would vehicle rules play out for a ded sneaky faction in a game with a lot of in-your-face straight combat?

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#186: Sep 10th 2011 at 11:27:22 AM

I had another idea that would suit the Chapter's tactical flexibility and piss off the the Ultramarines nine times offer. Alter or add to the Codex. Instead of treating it like holy writings, they treat it like the Encyclopedia Britannica. They acknowledge that it can be useful and update it constantly to keep it that way.

[up]Give them smoke launchers but withhold a few of the heavy weapons upgrades?

edited 10th Sep '11 11:28:18 AM by Rationalinsanity

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#187: Sep 10th 2011 at 11:35:11 AM

[up] Probably. Or modify the Rhino to hold less people but be smaller and less noisy, like a Razorback without weapons?

As for the whole "altering the Codex Astartes", here was my idea for the initiation ritual of the Ghost Walkers' Scouts:

Upon inception into the Chapter they're given a copy of the Codex Astartes to memorize. They'll carry the Codex with them on every deployment and will not be promoted to full Battle-Brothers until they've memorized every tactic concerning Space Marines in it.

Then, upon the day they receive their Power Armor, after learning all the Codex has to offer, their new Sergeant takes the copy of the Codex and sets it on fire before informing them of their views on Guilliman. They don't alter it, they just have the tactics of the Codex in the back of their heads from their Scout/Initiate days (depending on whether or not our Scouts are elites or not).

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#188: Sep 10th 2011 at 12:47:01 PM

Or what if they had to make an alteration/improvement to the Codex in order to become full Battle Brothers?

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#189: Sep 10th 2011 at 1:06:00 PM

[up] That could also work.

Their rite of captaincy is kicking Marneus Calgar in his robo-testicles.

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Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
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#190: Sep 10th 2011 at 1:37:53 PM

Maybe Initiates are supposed to write their own Codex? Based upon their experiences in battle and compounded on what they know from the original codex? Sort of like a thesis paper for Space Marines.

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#191: Sep 10th 2011 at 1:45:38 PM

My thought was kind of based on the Second Foundation, where full members have to add to the Seldon Plan.

Personal Codices would be pretty interesting, though. Would they be able to see one another's codices?

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#192: Sep 10th 2011 at 1:57:05 PM

[up] They cross-reference it with the squad they join upon initiation to create a squad-based Codex.

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#193: Sep 10th 2011 at 3:03:20 PM

So, about this Hive World our nice, gentlemanly snipers live on, how would you feel about fluffing that out a little? What's the culture like, what do they produce, how does the jungle terrain tie into it, who's the local regent, what are the local cults?

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#194: Sep 10th 2011 at 3:10:36 PM

So it's probably a horrid, ravening deathworld outside of the hives, right?

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#195: Sep 10th 2011 at 3:16:45 PM

[up] Probably. All sorts of nasty predators hiding in the jungle, Catachan-style.

Do you think the Hive would have at least a section specialising in camo-cloaks? Since those things are effectively just clothes with some sort of camo-tech, I can't imagine them being mass-produced on a Forge World. Besides that, I'm not sure what other goods it might produce. Maybe textiles in general, kind of like the 1800's England?

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#196: Sep 10th 2011 at 3:23:03 PM

Each hive could have a specialty. One makes textiles including camo cloaks. One makes munitions, including our custom stalker rounds. One makes vehicles, including our quiet-running bikes.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#197: Sep 10th 2011 at 3:24:11 PM

[up] I think ammo and vehicles is restricted to Forge Worlds, since the Ad Mech guard the secrets of manufacturing bolts quite vehemently. I'm thinking more everyday goods requiring a lot of manual labor. Perhaps they refine prometheum for bikes?

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arcsquad12 The Inheritor from Monument of Sins Since: Feb, 2011
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#198: Sep 10th 2011 at 3:30:50 PM

I was thinking the Ghost Walkers could run it like a police state. Anyone who starts to stir up shit will be swiftly STALKER BOLTGUN'd for stepping out of line.

EDIT You guys mentioned ravening death world conditions outside the Hives. What if as part of their initiation to Stalker Company, they need to survive three weeks on their own without support in the jungles?

edited 10th Sep '11 3:33:33 PM by arcsquad12

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#199: Sep 10th 2011 at 3:36:34 PM

[up] That could work. A final test of the Marine's abilities after centuries of warfare, surviving on the world that used to be their home for three weeks.

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RawbuttGirlyman Since: Sep, 2011
#200: Sep 10th 2011 at 3:55:04 PM

What is this heretical nonsense and what has it done to my glorious Ultramarines.


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