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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Aug 30th 2011 at 7:52:52 PM

Oh, well from the title and the description I thought it would sound a lot worse than it did. Not that it was necessary in the first place.

Ronnie Respect the Red Right Hand from Surrounded by Idiots Since: Jan, 2001
Respect the Red Right Hand
#3: Aug 30th 2011 at 7:58:13 PM

...I actually kinda like this.

[Is burned at stake for heresy.]

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#4: Aug 30th 2011 at 7:59:39 PM

The first one I don't mind that much.

The second ruins the dramatic moment.

Mort08 Pirate AND writer! from Oklahoma Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Pirate AND writer!
#5: Aug 30th 2011 at 8:06:59 PM

If it really is that Big "NO!", then I say we start a boycott.

edited 30th Aug '11 8:07:09 PM by Mort08

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#6: Aug 30th 2011 at 8:12:20 PM

...
uh...
Perfection?
...
Yeah, no. The change isn't really that bad.
I'm out.

MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#7: Aug 30th 2011 at 8:15:22 PM

Yeah. I like all six Star Warses, but Jedi is far from perfection.

Don't care one way or another on these changes, because I have no plans to buy this new version.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Aug 30th 2011 at 8:21:11 PM

Don't care one way or another on these changes, because I have no plans to buy this new version.

Seconded. I already have two different versions that I'm very happy with already. It's not like I'm interested in a new version at this point.

That said, that first "No" Vader did, the calm one, sounded pretty good. Really good, actually. And the second one... wasn't terrible.

edited 30th Aug '11 8:21:39 PM by KnownUnknown

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#9: Aug 30th 2011 at 8:24:13 PM

[up] I agree with this. If they just leave in the first one and make that the only change I would not care.

It's not like the giant shout he let out in the third. It's much more calm and seems to be more of a, "my god, I'm allowing this to happen again?" thing.

TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#10: Aug 30th 2011 at 8:51:29 PM

No, I don't like that at all. It's turning one of the most brilliant scenes of the entire saga and turning it into complete narm. It just feels wrong to have Vader saying anything there at all. What the fuck's the point? What does it add other than some horrible call back to an inferior trilogy? We know what's going on, we know what he's thinking, why does he have to say something? Just for the shit of it?

Once again, people will be watching the big moment of the movie - the last big moment of the trilogy - and think "what the fuck?"

edited 30th Aug '11 8:53:22 PM by TheBatPencil

And let us pray that come it may (As come it will for a' that)
MadassAlex I am vexed! from the Middle Ages. Since: Jan, 2001
Gvzbgul from Middle Earth Since: Jul, 2010
#12: Aug 30th 2011 at 10:19:53 PM

I believe that a creator should be allowed to change a work after it has been published. However, George Lucas keeps on doing changes that make the films worse so there's clearly problems with that belief. But this change isn't bad, it's not too over the top and it's a call back to the big no in episode three. Which if you count it as two trilogies then there is a bit of mirroring going on. However, the big no in episode 3 was narmy and this one, while not narmy itself, can only remind viewers of an actual narmy moment.

edited 30th Aug '11 10:20:09 PM by Gvzbgul

Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
MadassAlex I am vexed! from the Middle Ages. Since: Jan, 2001
I am vexed!
#15: Aug 31st 2011 at 8:19:37 AM

ROTJ may not be perfect as a whole, but the Luke/Vader stuff is damn good.

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#16: Aug 31st 2011 at 10:52:49 AM

man, you guys are taking the whole perfection thing way to seriously... -_-;;

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:48:56 PM

[up] What do you expect? It's long been established that Star Wars fans hate Star Wars.

Liisiko Just a teapot Since: Jan, 2010
Just a teapot
#18: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:51:34 PM

I'm surprised that no one had declared that they Do Not Want.

Insert witty one-liner here.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#19: Aug 31st 2011 at 1:59:59 PM

I know my local Best Buy thinks they will be popular, they're already reserving sets.

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
I Am The Walrus
#20: Aug 31st 2011 at 2:16:01 PM

At this point, is it really a big deal? It was to be expected.

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#21: Aug 31st 2011 at 2:24:31 PM

People already bought their DV Ds. I doubt they'll purchase this one.

Every new new DVD sitting on a warehouse unsold is a ballot for "FUCK YOU, JUST STOP IT!"

Jonah Falcon
JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#22: Aug 31st 2011 at 2:32:46 PM

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=622535

From this thread, I see that Lucas is tinkering with the Star Wars films again for the blu-ray release. If Vader's "noooooooo" isn't a parody, it's yet more damage done to the original, where an expressionless mask somehow conveyed what Vader was thinking perfectly at that point. It got me wondering how he could achieve maximum damage to his legacy.

- Play-up Luke as the whiny teenager. "I have to do my chores first? That's soooo unfair!" - Further sanitise the character of Han Solo by making a smuggler of medical supplies past imperial blockades. "Even I get boarded sometimes... those poor children." - Jar-Jar cameos. He could be a high-ranking leader of the rebel alliance by the time of the original trilogy. Wouldn't be difficult to CGI him into the command bunker at the battle of Yavin. "Yousa turn off targetting computer Luke!" He could also replace Admiral Ackbar in Jedi. - Add midochlorian references to the original trilogy. "The force is strong in this one. His midochlorian count must be exceedingly high." - Have Luke scare the wampa off using his lightsabre, can't have him getting choppy on a clearly endangered species. - Can't have Luke using his jedi powers to trick simple ewoks, have him give an impassioned speech instead. - Actually, thinking about it, Obi-Wan lying to Luke about the whole Vader thing is really acceptable either. "Your father wanted you to have this... before he turned to evil and became DARTH VADER!"

edited 31st Aug '11 2:33:02 PM by JAF1970

Jonah Falcon
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Aug 31st 2011 at 3:01:27 PM

Methinks yousa is exaggerating.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24: Aug 31st 2011 at 3:19:42 PM

[up][up] Dude, they're just really good movies. It's not like it's a religious text*

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terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#25: Aug 31st 2011 at 3:58:34 PM

If had been a replica of Revenge Of The Sith in that moment but this,..... THIS???? (Gets hysterical) In the best movie of the whole sextet?!?

NnnnOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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