Kamen Rider: General Thread

Zi-O 23:

When will Tsukuyomi realize that it was precisely their believing in Sougo and staying close to him that helped prevent Oma Zi-O from being a thing in the first place? But Schwartz screwing Uhr over was a bit unexpected. Anyway, I suppose everyone working together next week should be interesting.

Oh, and that Another Zi-O from last page looks as awkward as this pagetopper.

Edited by KusaMigeru on Feb 24th 2019 at 5:39:18 PM

Hopefully very soon.

And I'm not really surprised by Schwarz's actions. It's always been clear he never much cared for his fellow time breakers and considered them expendable. Look at the way he never hesitated to use his time freezing powers on them.

I thought Tsukyomi's sudden flip boils down to lacking the proper context for what went down with Mirror Sougo and thus when he starts blabbing about accepting the darkness inside or whatever, she took it to be literal instead of a Persona moment

which is pretty dumb since she could've just asked him how he got the Zi-O II watch, it's not like he's been secretive about literally anything that's happened to them before

Anyway, Rento's from the Geiz Revive timeline right since Oma Zi-O -> no Kamen Riders besides him so wonder how this compounds with White Woz's statement about the future, which sounded pretty stagnant even if it's supposed to be the quote good future unquote and there was the implication that he couldn't reach that far on the timeline

Edited by Nouct on Feb 24th 2019 at 12:49:20 PM

Stagnant future? As in "it's as if time itself has stopped"? I mean, White Woz is incredibly secretive about what their future looks like. 2121 might indeed be beyond his knowledge, but it may even show some aspects of the future he knows, but is lying (or being silent) about.

Here's a look at Kamen Rider Zi-O's Ultimate Form (WARNING: SPOILERS!!).

Build Final Stage got subbed so sure. It's a total excuse plot (stage show, duh) but it's still pretty fun and I definitely see how you'd get into it if you were there IRL. Seeing everybody's final forms at once is fun, and Evolt Genius is pretty good for a recolour. Cross-Z Build is slightly odd but I guess it's this series' 'miracle form'. Also they do a thing with the 'are you ready?' call again, though played for comedy rather than badass. The victory is slightly neutered by the fact that Cross-Z New World established Evolt survives anyway.

It also tries to play up Sento not existing in the new world, but that's solved in the final, so I guess if you wanted to go full continuity, you would literally have to pause the final part-way through and play this then. It does specify that it's set between the old world's destruction and the new one's creation so you probably could if you cared enough.

Zi-O: White Woz cooking is by far the weirdest development

We actually get a nice little snippet of Kikai's plot; he goes in on the 'Rider and enemy share a power source bit' pretty well. The scans were a bit nebulous but this confirms he's the same type of android as them, but without the genocidal tendicies. He's got a really forced catchphrase and everything!

The uncle caring about Sougo is a nice touch but also emphasizes how paper-this this masquerade is.

The plot conspires to give us a triple henshin, character in-fighting be damned.

We saw the Kikai Another Watch for a split second, does that meant they can sell it now?

Sougo's dream created Another Kikai is kind of a wild assumption to come to on your own but ok. Well, at least it's finally time for Geiz Revive, that felt like a long initial leak to appearence time. Though judging by the preview not literally next episode.

Edited by HalfFaust on Feb 27th 2019 at 1:14:14 AM

So, does anyone feel like a Time Jacker should have bitten it already?

I think we're on the verge of that now actually.

Hoping we find out the relationship between Zi-O and the timejackers soon. There has to be one, it's part of the theme.

Zi-O 24

I guess going all in with White Woz means Tsukuyomi and Geiz can only eat with him from now

All this required napping cannot be good for Sougo's neck

Hora simply waiting to get the watch to create a proper puppet and leaving everyone else frozen in the time stop to die is interesting character-wise but also it feels like they don't want to actually put in the effort of explaining the Time Jacker relationships with each other.

he rewinds time for Tsukuyomi dying but Uhr being turned into Another Kikai ehhh whatever what can you do wow that's cold Sougo

Turns out Woz ghosting Sougo didn't work out that well, was a nice reprieve while it lasted

Kikai!Woz can mind control people. o-ok. Now waiting for the moment he uses that ability on a named character

ok Kikai being based on Sougo's toy robot is cute and the weird contrivances can be explained away via dream logic but. then why did Another Kikai first manifest as a bug possessing trees. what the fuck did that have to do with Sougo's life

In regards to that last point (about why Another Kikai manifested as a tree possessing bug), my best answer is not a damn clue.

I suppose the best we can guess is that that was the best vessel it could find.

And yeah, the Time Breakers are all assholes it seems. Uhr is either gonna Heel–Face Turn or try and pull a nasty The Dog Bites Back on both of his comrades for that little stunt.

I feel like villain in-fighting is more likely here, as they're all trying to set up puppet dictators and don't really seem to like each other that much. Though on that topic, what was Hora's plan if this worked? Surely a fellow time jacker is like the worst possible puppet?

I liked that Another Kikai was different but I would have liked more explanation why.

It's not like he raised any death flag in particular or anything, but I feel that, if someone must die, then Uhr is a growing possibility.

Wonder what's stopping them from being the ruler themselves instead of using a dummy.

I believe Tid tried that in the movie.

Looking forward to that movie in order to answer that question (so don't tell me now).

Though I'd guess it has something to do with how if they are defeated it means the end of any future plans.

I want to know where they came from and if they created Sougo or he created them. Because the Rider is ALWAYS like his enemy.

Which begs the question, who was Quiz fighting in his time? Evil fashionistas? Or is this like Gaim and people use trivia games as a replacement for gang fights?

Edited by SCMof2814 on Mar 5th 2019 at 2:43:53 AM

To me, Sougo's greatest enemy is already himself, as in Oma Zi-O - or the idea of becoming like him.

I feel like this is all going to boil down to 'dream of a better future' and 'Sougo loses his powers since he undoes the time travel that created him in the first place, meaning he'll only ever show up as a background Rider in movies'.

Edited by SCMof2814 on Mar 5th 2019 at 8:39:20 PM

They can always swing a "middle-of-series Sougo rode his time machine in" for movies.

So...

When do you think we'll see the man chosen by the heavens.

It'd be great if they got Tendou's actor back. And of course, I'd love for him to pull a Takeru and return to form, even if for a short time...

...and then, the return of the most stylish of Rider Kicks.

I don't know. I find it increasingly harder for the old Heisei Riders to appear now. And even if they do something Kabuto-related, it's more probable that they use Kagami instead. And I wouldn't complain about that, as I've said before.

Finally caught the Another Zi-O ep. I wish it didn't take nearly a week to put them up.

Anyway, wonder what this dude's beef with Sougo is...or maybe he just wants to be Zi-O so he can get his parents back. Who knows?

I think O-T is normally the fastest and they've been delayed just because of translator life stuff. Probably going to stay that way for a while, alas.

Another Zi-O is kind of weird. Like, yes, he is technically somebody in Sougo's life but it's a pretty circumstantial connection.

They seem to have used up their good returning actors in the movie. Though I guess we could get something along the lines of the Fourze episode if they still wanted to do an episode for each series

Edited by HalfFaust on Mar 9th 2019 at 11:45:46 AM

Funny that Sougo thinks that Tsukuyomi will come to the battle while fighting the Another Riders because she's taken a much more passive role after freaking out over Zi-O II as if Sougo's gonna give her overlord cooties

Neat that they followed up on what happened to the rando schmucks even a lot of this episode felt like they were trying to save on budget

Would've liked for Another Zi-O to be given more buildup given how on paper this should be incredibly significant, but no he's just some dude that waltzed in because the writing said so

Uhr fainting in reaction to Another Zi-O is incredibly extra

Edited by Nouct on Mar 10th 2019 at 9:21:59 AM