They seem to be a constant fixture in Pu A related matters though.
Eh, why do you feel entitled to dictate who does and does not deserve to feel good about themselves?
Really, not the topic of the thread.
I don't, but I feel compelled to ask WHY someone feels like that. Its important to know these things.
It is a fundamental part about Pu A however. I was simply intending it as a temporary discussion, not a permanent derail.
You said we weren't to discuss that anymore dude.
I think a more productive line of questioning would be why Pu A seem to think they "deserve" to get laid/ sleep with people. Would you say that that is a good or bad thing?
Josef Bugman brought up the issue well before that, and did not refer exclusively to deserving "pussy." In fact, he explicitly used the word "anything."
In any case, let's not pretend there is no position between believing you deserve nothing and believing you "deserve to get laid by everyone [you] set [your] eyes on"
edited 30th Aug '11 5:52:14 PM by MostlyBenign
Generally, believing you don't deserve things hinders pursuing them. In the case of things widely considered good and pleasurable, this results in people ending up less happy than they could be.
Since people keep conflating separate things, it should probably be added that believing you deserve something is not the same as acting like an obnoxious shit about it, nor does one necessarily follow from the other.
edited 30th Aug '11 6:06:13 PM by MostlyBenign
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There is no objective reason to assume you ever deserve anything; the question of what a person deserves is always a normative or subjective assessment. I've already responded to the questions of why individual people might like to believe that they deserve things, and why such beliefs might be positive things to hold.
And again, believing that you are, on some basic level, worthy of having good things happen to you does not equal being some kind of a rapist who will not let anything stand between yourself and sex.
@kash:
I believe people deserve to believe they deserve to have sex, if that makes any sense to you. Mind you, I don't believe that "deserving" and "entitled" are synonymous in all cases: a person might say "I deserve to be happy" without meaning it as "I'm entitled to have my wants met by others without question until such time as I deem myself happy."
...I think I'm done with this tangent.
edited 30th Aug '11 6:22:59 PM by MostlyBenign
Right. It's simply about whether you consider yourself to be a worthwhile person or not, and exactly how worthwhile.
to which he has answered clearly 'no'.
edited 30th Aug '11 6:26:09 PM by SavageOrange
'Don't beg for anything, do it yourself, or else you won't get anything.'"edited 30th Aug '11 6:22:59 PM by Mostly Benign"??? It tells me mainly one thing: something strange is happening.. since that is before the original posting time.
'Don't beg for anything, do it yourself, or else you won't get anything.'That means that the edit times are not localized, although the post times are. because here, it says the original post was made at Wed, 31st Aug '11 10:46:34 AM .
(my timezone == +9.30 GMT)
'Don't beg for anything, do it yourself, or else you won't get anything.'

I am more trying to make a point that without achievement then the self image is hollow. If there has been nothing done to earn the importance, then why on earth do they deserve to feel entitled to anything in the first place?
How would that work?