So at this point the plan appears to be
1. Take "Status Effect" to YKTTW as the supertrope of Standard Status Effects and Status Buff.
2. Rename Standard Status Effects to Status Ailment.
3. Possibly split subtropes of Status Ailment to YKTTW.
Who's up for this?
I'm up for it... distracted scheduling and all....
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.<threadhop>
Are we still using this scheme
for organizing/classifying the status effects?
Hmm...this is getting stale again. Is there any reason why we don't close this and start over? I get the feeling that without a completely fresh start we won't be getting anywhere soon.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanWell, I do have that YKTTW for Status Effect
, I'm certainly disappointed nobody's responded to it.
I also began a YKTTW for Status Ailment
, which ... is ... also lacking in the feedback department.
I think the Status Effect YKTTW is launch-ready. Status Ailment could use some more time, but it can survive as an Internal Subtrope until its YKTTW is done baking.
All we have left is to look for splittable subtropes that we can write up. The health of our main trope isn't contingent on the splits, so I feel comfortable that our work here is done and the project can be handed off to Special Efforts/YKTTW.
Okay, Status Effect and Status Ailment are now both done. Status Effect is declared No Examples Please; Status Ailment could probably have examples split into subpages by genre. Any ideas for indexing and crosswicking?
Unfortunately we do now have a disconnect in naming — that the existing page is canonically named "Standard Status Effects" and not "Standard Status Ailments".
edited 31st Dec '13 9:36:03 AM by Stratadrake
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.Consistent use of terminology between trope names is a Good Thing.
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.I don't see a need to split between Standard Status Ailments and Standard Status Buffs. Just let it cover both and keep the name. We can stick a Tropes Are Flexible note in the description if that's necessary.
edited 7th Feb '14 3:45:25 PM by troacctid
You're too late in saying that. At this point, you'd need a very good reason to overturn the the consensus opinion of splitting the two into separate tropes.
I was referring to Stratadrake's new crowner. We already did the split between Status Buff and Status Ailment. There's no need to split Standard Status Effects too. Renaming 900 wicks would just be a waste of effort and there's nothing wrong with it as is.
edited 7th Feb '14 3:50:30 PM by troacctid
Look at the page, it covers negative status effects exclusively (and always has). Whereas Status Buff not only defines the term but incorporates a list of standard buffs.
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.Standard status buffs would be covered implicitly via Tropes Are Flexible/Playing with a Trope. (The current description even already has a line talking about them.) But even if they weren't, it would be much simpler and easier just to expand the description a little bit—renaming is overkill.
edited 8th Feb '14 1:02:39 AM by troacctid
...statutory limitation of SP crowners, yeah.
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.The last, unhooked crowner
pretty much stalled, perhaps because it has not been hooked.
Crown Description:
What would be the best way to fix the page?

I'm mixed on that - the naming of them is a trope too because that's precisely what the viewer recognizes them by.
However, I believe we can't have a page for "Standard" Status Effects without having a page for Status Effects in general, and if we do have a page for it in general then it needs to mention both the positive and negative ones, rather than strictly focusing on Status Ailments while letting Status Buffs have their own page.
edited 12th Jun '13 7:05:52 AM by Stratadrake
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.