Most of the Internet, though not so much now that this movie's gone and they have the sequel to doomsay about. It's the first thing pointed out by any diehard fan calling Adaptation Decay—second, perhaps, to the motion-capture.
edited 23rd Feb '13 6:42:45 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Though this movie is in my top five favorite movies, and I love it just as much as I do the stories, I will admit there is quite a bit of Adaptation Decay.
But as always the internet latches onto the wrong things to gripe about - the most noticeable (and important) decay isn't in the lack of the Bird Brothers (or the way it's animated - I mean, really?), since Sakharrine replaced them so fully. It's in things like Tintin's characterization and the way the story proceeds (it's a lot more streamlined, less quirky/nuanced mishaps and things going on in the background) - it makes it a different kind of story, more of a straightforward adventure film (which is in no way a bad thing), but definitely doesn't make it any worse.
Again, it's a wonderful movie.
edited 23rd Feb '13 6:53:39 PM by KnownUnknown
I see your point about the way the story is told, although unless you're doing straight comedy Random Events Plot is kinda hard to pull of in film so it's forgivable.
I'm wondering, though, what was your issue with Tintin's characterization? Is it just the simple fact that he has some?
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.In the comics, I always felt Tintin was kind of a Pinball Protagonist, while in the movie he seems to have more of a saying in where the plot is taking him. Not that much, but that's the impression I got.
It's not an issue, particularly, it's just a noticeable change.
The best example of it is the scene where Tintin confronts Haddock after he's robbed by Allan - that and the scene right after where he almost gives up made me retroactively notice how serious Tintin is in this movie. He's very driven and always gives off a kind of an intense but also very grounded vibe, like he's always trying to be in control of the situation. A lot of his dialogue - while not exactly sardonic - is sharper than one might expect. In general the film files off much of his more wide-eyed-but-not-naive precociously curious traits from the comic for a more single-minded Determinator.
Not that the comic version is any less of a Determinator (far from it), but more that the film noticeably emphasizes that as the major aspect of his personality - which makes sense given that the plot itself is more a straightforward, tensely progressing adventure. Herge seemed more interested in giving him more of a "innocent but adventurous young lad" feel, and the end result is a lot lighter (and a bit more idealistic a character, not that the film Tintin isn't still something of an idealist) while still being a fervent adventurer.
^ And that's part of it (as well as the way the plot progresses - rather than things happening to the protagonists all the time with them surviving due to their own wit and a lot of luck, the protagonists are often trying to get the plot to happen themselves) - comic Tintin is very much a character who is casually curious about interesting things around whim, who often finds himself in huge situations without even realizing the smaller incidents he's investigating are bigger than they seem to be, while film Tintin dives into exposing everything around him almost immediately after catching a scent.
Again, just a different kind of story.
edited 23rd Feb '13 7:21:16 PM by KnownUnknown
IMDB has it listed as Prisoners Of The Sun, but I haven't found anything else to support that yet. Especially since they have more plot connected with the Unicorn to go through (probably the majority of Red Rackham's Treasure they skipped over), it doesn't really seem right.
edited 22nd May '13 6:10:26 PM by KnownUnknown
In all fairness, the movie gives Tintin more personality than the books do.
Tintin in the book is sort of really bland. Like here he's at least given a barebone motivation for adventuring (Being a reporter and thinking it's a good story) and actually gets mad at Haddock's drunkenness.
edited 7th Jun '13 6:16:08 PM by Ghilz
So I go to deviantart (my first mistake, I'm sure) to look up some Tintin fanart, and discover to my horror that Tintin/Haddock is a thing. AAAAUGH!
Anyway, I've been speccing about what they might do for a sequel again. Wikipedia says they're not going to start working on it until Peter Jackson gets done with the Hobbit movies (so we're not going to be seeing it for a while), but it's still fun to think about. The next movie is definitely going to do part of Red Rackham's Treasure, but while it's still a fun read (it's my favorite of the stories, I think) it's not really full movie material. I'd never call it mundane, exactly, but it is very basic and not very plot heavy.
But the fact that the film is one massive composite of a bunch of stories made me wonder if the Red Rackham story might segue into another one - like maybe they're at sea searching for Rackham's Treasure when they stumble across a smuggling operation, and suddenly the whole thing turns into Crab With The Golden Claws (though I kind of doubt they'll use Salaad again, so maybe not) or The Red Sea Sharks. Or maybe in trying to bring part of the treasure to a museum they stumble across a murderous mystery involving a mummy and Seven Crystal Balls - Wiki does claim that they might be saving Prisoners of the Sun for a third film.
One thing's for sure, we're probably going to see characters inserted into plotlines they weren't originally majorly involved with in the comics (I'm thinking mainly of Calculus here) - so the sky's the limit in terms of what they can do in that regard...
edited 26th May '14 11:41:05 PM by KnownUnknown
If not plot heavy, that could mean they can add a little more of an original plot line within without it effecting the main story.
Isn't there a trope for that?
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Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Calm yourself, boy.
I'm fairly certain that Tintin 2 is still lurking somewhere in the heads of Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson, but the two are more preoccupied with other bigger projects. I know Spielberg is in the middle of doing Ready Player One, and Jackson is probably still taking some R & R after doing The Hobbit, part 3, so don't fret.
Now what have you heard, fellow Troper?

Who's been making a big deal over it?