I like this idea. There are a lot of times when I later change my mind about a vote, and considering "ambivalent" is basically a state of mind it seems only natural.
"In the land of the insecure, the one-balled man is king." - HavenIIRC this has been brought up before and the response was something like, you can changed you vote if you changed your mind but if you once cared enough to vote you should stand for that, meaning that it probably won't be implemented.
edited 25th Sep '11 5:28:04 AM by mahel042
In the quiet of the night, the Neocount of Merentha mused: How long does evolution take, among the damned?
But that's a horrible misinterpretation of how voting works and what it is supposed to mean. Just look at bipartite systems and "yes/no" crowners in comparison. If you once cared enough to vote, you can surely care enough to want to state clearly that none of the options longer represent you, or that you consider both harmful, and that has to be represented somehow. I could see a point of not switching to neutral in multiple proposition crowners, perhaps.
edited 25th Sep '11 8:49:12 AM by SilentReverence
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Except people do change their minds. If they seriously voted in haste, and don't like any of the options, why shouldn't they be allowed to remove their vote?
I'm not for the "screw them" approach.
Mind you, I do think people should wait before they vote, but that honestly can't be helped sometimes.
Quest 64 threadAnd if you later believe that none of the options represent you you vote them down, simple as that. Personally I don't mind either way but this is just how I remembered it being commented on before.
In the quiet of the night, the Neocount of Merentha mused: How long does evolution take, among the damned?
Voting them down is not the same as removing your vote at all. There's three options in a vote, Up, Down, None. If you don't want your vote to count, you should be allowed to do that. Voting "down" means you're against it instead. If you're neutral, you'd want to remove the vote in the first place.
Other than being an extra pain to code, what's the problem with changing your mind here? We can change our votes up and down as is, so why can't we withdraw it?
Quest 64 thread
Agreed.
But what would happen if you made a mistake in voting?
At the very least, perhaps it'd be possible for a mod/admin to remove your vote if you can give a detailed explanation about your mistake?
Not that that isn't a pain in the butt. And I know that being able to remove your vote is rather abusable.
I get entirely what you mean, though. So I'm going to drop my end.
edited 25th Sep '11 1:34:30 PM by Hydronix
Quest 64 threadI've definitely misclicked once or twice. And neutral is a position! (In fact, there are times I'd like to actively vote neutral on one option, and have it counted, so it doesn't look like the option is being ignored, unlike the options I voted up or down.) But whatever.
I agree that this would be a low priority issue, and I certainly realize there are more important things to work on. I'm just not impressed with the attempts to dismiss the idea out-of-hand. They sound...dismissive. And shallow. And not well-thought-out.
Now, if Eddie were to say "we're not going to do this, because we're going with a more reasonable voting system like condorcet in the future", then I wouldn't mind a bit! But as it is, voting neutral is the only way to get anything like a ranking on a multiple choice crowner.
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Currently, you can vote a proposition up or down in a crowner, or leave it alone, which is basically a neutral vote. Unfortunately, once you pick up or down, there's no option to go back to neutral. I've wanted this several times, for a couple of different reasons:
a) I clicked on the wrong one, one I didn't want to click on at all.
b) I changed my mind, and now I'm neutral on this option.
It would be nice if the little page that lets you switch ("you have voted this up, would you like to change your vote to down?") had an option to simply unvote.
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