Nextwave? Asides from being a generally good comic, it is also less of your typical superhero story while still having many of the core tropes.
Granted, this is just from reading the trope page, but I'm looking for something a little more...deep...if that's the word, not something that's going to reaffirm the stereotype that superhero comics are just hot people in spandex blowing shit up.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.So no The Killing Joke? Dang...
Well you should read FMA anyway, it's good.
I will always and eternally recommended Ultimate Spider-man and to just stop on volume 20, because it's all downhill volumes 21 and 22.
But seriously man, she should not need to force FMA on you, you should've already read it.
Ninja'd.
Well I've only read one volume of Astro City but that may be good.
Also, her liking Cowboy Bebop just mean that she's just like everybody else. Cowboy Bebop is the anime for people that don't like anime. Or Americans. Either way, Cowboy Bebop is just "The great thing everybody likes", it'll say little about one's taste.
edited 16th Aug '11 7:08:37 PM by MousaThe14
The Blog The ArtIf she's a fan of Wake Up, Go to School, Save the World type stories, I'd recommend Stan Lee & Steve Ditko's Amazing Spider-Man run. Stan's writing is fairly cheesy, though, since that's how things were done back then. May wanna warn her of that if you go with it.
I'd recommend Daredevil: Born Again, but it helps to have prior knowledge of DD before one reads it.
Okay, I can also agree that she should read the old Amazing Spider-man. One can easily find it in the ginormous Essential volumes in a library.
But she should, like I , quite when characters start popping up and it reads in the corner (Don't know this villain or this relationship? Read Peter Parker as The Spectacular Spider-man to find out!)
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So, just called her for more info on her tastes—she likes Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, D.Gray-man, Code Geass (the anime, she hasn't read the manga), Ranma ½, and Inuyasha (though she did confess it's a bit repetitive.)
Hope this isn't too broad.
edited 16th Aug '11 7:41:00 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Yeah, you're gonna have to give us more than "Likes Cowboy Bebop." Does she like certain themes? Does she prefer her stuff Darker and Edgier or Lighter and Softer? What's her favorite genres? Has she ever watched any shows from the DCAU and, if so, what did she think them? What are some trends, themes, or tropes she simply can't stand?
Too bad about no Batman, as I was going to suggest "Batman: Child of Dreams", which is basically a Batman manga.
So let's see...yes, Ultimate Spider-Man with possibly a Stan & Jack original Spider-Man chaser, just to highlight how different creators can work with the same basic material.
Jonah Hex comes to mind; it's not superheroes as such, but it's definitely an American Big Two comic book.
Supergirl: Cosmic Adventures in the Eighth Grade was cute, well-written and requires minimal knowledge of the canon.
Okay, so she's a fan of popular shounen series. Which means a lot of action, immature humor, and long runners. I happen to like the DB/Z and Ranma manga meself.
SO I will reaffirm that she should read the recommended Spider-man comics because what you've described to me does not scream "Likes deepness" as much as you mentioned earlier. Perhaps she does but considering what I've been presented, I offer a different path.
The Blog The ArtBut with this kind of lineup, Nextwave should be right up her alley. Also, it has the great advantage of being a finished series with little big universe continuity, so it is easy to get into.
What might also work, Immortal Iron Fist, latest series. A comic about a mystical martial artist and the Vanishing Village he comes from.
edited 16th Aug '11 7:53:08 PM by eX
"Deep" was the wrong word. I want something that doesn't play up the requisite tropes in a way that makes the whole thing look stupid. Nextwave, if it's nearly as plotless and action-packed as the page says, is only going to make her think superhero books are exactly what she thought they were.
(And, regardless of actual content, she does argue that manga is better than American comics because they're "deep." This from the woman who said she gave up on American books after reading one Batman that she remembers nothing about.)
So, Ultimate Spidey seems to be the top pick. If no one disputes, I'll lend that to her next time I see her.
edited 16th Aug '11 7:59:21 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.I love Dragonball Z to pieces but deep is not the adjective that comes to mind when I want to describe the series. Neither for Ranma or Code Geass. And DBZ pretty much is a superhero comic any way. People with superpowers, defending earth from various threads.
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Oh oh mans, that.. Wow, I needed a good laugh Wackd, she has no idea what she's taking about, The list she's mentioned are manga that prove that manga are just as common, low and shallow as American comics.
Japanese comics are not deeper than American ones, both sides have their good and bad shallow and deep and if she genuinely belles that she needs to get off her high horse and start getting disillusioned, I was only that stupid for less than a year.
edited 16th Aug '11 8:59:41 PM by MousaThe14
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Yeeeeaaahh... DBZ is one of many such Shonen shos, as I'm sure many know, and what that proves, is that those kind of Shonen's, and the traditional Super-Hero comic, (Superman, Wonder Woman, JLA, Iron Man, Avengers, etc.,) are pretty much the Alternate-Country equivalents of each other, in a number of ways. If she wanted a 'deep' comic, DBZ and the like are not the type of stuff she should be using for comparison.
edited 16th Aug '11 9:19:48 PM by kkhohoho
Oh, I realize, iv you really want to blow your friends' mind about this whole "deepness" nonsense, I suggest throwing Marvels and Kingdom Come on her head. If DB/Z, Ranma, Code Geass, etc are "deep" enough for her, these will send her mind to oblivion.
The Blog The ArtI am fighting the urge to laugh at her stupidity, and I say this as someone who loves Dragonball and G Gundam (just because they're awesome doesn't mean they aren't dumb as all fuck). Somebody here has a strong case of the weeaboos.
Personally, I worship the ground Darwyn Cooke walks on so... Batman: Ego's out, and I'm not sure how much of Justice League New Frontier she'd by going "who the fuck are these people?" so I'm not inclined to rec that... How 'bout his reboot of The Spirit? There's also Superman: Kryptonite and, if her Bat-hatred doesn't extend to related characters, Selina's Big Score.
On the Marvel side, I'm thinking Thor: The Mighty Avenger
Nextwave is a special kind of deep — It's so shamelessly shallow that it goes all the way around and ends up profound. It gave my mind the explodo because it is clever.
edited 16th Aug '11 9:44:59 PM by Sparkysharps
Nextwave is great, but it isn't deep; it's hilarious.
Hmmm... maybe the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle comics? They're pretty and good, and generally focused on the teenagers, rather like most mainstream shonen.
The owner of this account is temporarily unavailable. Please leave your number and call again later.Cosmic Marvel. Start with Drax The Destroyer and then proceed with Annihilation and Conquest.

She keeps pushing manga on me, and since I finally caved and agreed to read Full Metal Alchemist I can't help but realize that it's only fair that I give her something to start on to (whether she wants me to is another matter.)
I'm not talking about alternative stuff. She's read the works of Jhonen Vasquez and loved it. I want something that'll get her interested in Marvel and DC, even if it's older stuff (because naturally, as we all know, modern mainstream comic suck.)
She also likes Cowboy Bebop. As an anime newbie I'm not sure what this says about her taste, though I've heard good things about it and am enjoying FMA, no matter how unwillingly I started it.
So...um...yeah. Recommendations would be appreciated. (Nothing Batman, though. She claimed she read a Batman comic a few years back and it killed her interest in American comics.)
edited 16th Aug '11 6:56:36 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.