If you watch the video in which he denies the allegations, it's pretty obvious he's not Doing this for publicity
edited 11th Apr '16 2:41:26 PM by dontcallmewave
He who fights bronies should see to itthat he himself does not become a brony. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, Pinkie Pie gazes AlsoEven looking past the sexual assault allegations, the stories about him that have come out from nearly every You Tuber I follow paints a picture of a person I feel skeevy about having ever been a fan of.
People on You Tube are on a lynch mob mentality. If you ask me, they should focus their hate towards Drama Alert for making this public without proof. Rumors and allegations are no reason to tuin someone's life.
He who fights bronies should see to itthat he himself does not become a brony. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, Pinkie Pie gazes AlsoPersonally, my first impression was that someone had taken a preexisting narrative and inserted Toby into it because the juxtaposition amused them,
So someone stating where the narrative came from was enough to vindicate my original thought.
But, I don't know anything about the other grievances, I guess.
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.Do any of these accusations have any proof? And for the record, the fact that there are a lot of people saying so does not count as proof. I just want to know about one credible statement that has proof on its own.
He who fights bronies should see to itthat he himself does not become a brony. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, Pinkie Pie gazes AlsoThis isn't a court of law. When a wide variety of content creators unanimously state, "Yeah, this dude is a shitheel," and "Every You Tuber has a Tobuscus story," that influences my feelings on the matter a bit, and my feelings don't require a unanimous jury vote.
However, he doesn't deserve to have his life ruined over mere allegations. False or otherwise. Look up the story of Fatty Arbuckle for an idea of how rumor mongering can ruin innocent lives.
edited 11th Apr '16 3:04:54 PM by dontcallmewave
He who fights bronies should see to itthat he himself does not become a brony. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, Pinkie Pie gazes AlsoTrue or not, his main and YMMV pages could use some cautious editing judgment.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Creator.Tobuscus
I have heard of Fatty Arbuckle. But still, that doesn't change my opinion, and won't stop me from expressing my opinion.
Do I think he should be thrown in prison? No, there isn't enough evidence for that at this time. But will I stop watching his content and encourage others to do the same? Yes, because, irrespective of the sexual assault allegations, people who's word I trust and who have no reason to lie have said that he is an addict/emotionally abusive/a serial cheater/etc.
edited 11th Apr '16 3:34:57 PM by DirectorCannon
You have a right to express your opinion. However, I urge you to give it some more thought before you advocate ruining someone's life because of hearsay. Even if it is people you feel you can trust, you don't know the whole story.
He who fights bronies should see to itthat he himself does not become a brony. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, Pinkie Pie gazes Also
I have given it thought. When all this first came out, I thought, "I'll wait and see." But, like I said, when literally every person who has interacted with him that I follow has said the same thing, namely that he is a shitbag, if not necessarily a sexual predator, I decided that irrespective of sexual assault, this is not a person I want to see continue being internet famous.
The accusation that the post is copied from Jessica Jones is pretty silly- there's not all that many similarities beyond a few basic, surface level elements, and because the TV show deals pretty heavily with topics of rape and abuse it's not exactly surprising that the show would resemble real-life accusations.
With the "innocent until proven guilty" thing, I think it kind of has to go both ways. By which I mean, you can't automatically assume that the accuser is guilty of lying, either. Really there's not much we can do but wait to see how things pan out. Hopefully this will be formally investigated, so it can have some kind of resolution.
Though, I think that Toby's kid friendly image has been pretty badly damaged. Even if the abuse accusations are never proven, quite a few people have come forward with stories about his drug use.
Even without the story being copied off a tv show, there are several suspicious details, for one, the accusation is pretty detailed, so much so it seems more like a bad fanfic than a recollection of real life from a few years ago.
Another thing that bothers me is why post on tumblr instead of reporting this to law enforcement? It's almost as if they knew it had no chance of standing up in court, but knew that the Internet lynch mobs aren't bothered with small things like "evidence " and would destroy his reputation.
Another minor detail: his Ex was the one who made the accusation. Surely you can think of a reason she might have a grudge and want to ruin his reputation
Im not saying he's innocent, but to me, all the evidence seems to be pointed to malicious slander.
edited 11th Apr '16 4:22:18 PM by dontcallmewave
He who fights bronies should see to itthat he himself does not become a brony. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, Pinkie Pie gazes AlsoTo chime in: as a Lostprophets fan note , I can understand why people feel defensive. It's damn hard to admit that someone whose work you enjoy is really a completely horrible person behind it all. A lot of people view fanbase endorsement as "either-or", with no middle ground, and there's quite a bit of social pressure and conditioning involved there.
Remember, being a celebrity does not make you infallible; in many cases, it can make you more so. And sadly there are people who either are not equipped to handle fame, or should just never be given it in the first place. It does sound like Toby Turner falls under the latter, which is unfortunate, but it happens. Just as it happened with Ian Watkins. And it will happen again.
Anyway, since I mentioned Lostprophets, I am obligated to leave this music video here, which is very chilling while somehow being a fitting theme for such scandals. (Mild/moderate NSFW warning.)
edited 11th Apr '16 4:25:41 PM by TotemicHero
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)False accusation does not make the accuser a victim. Another thing that points to the Woman Scorned theory: just a week ago, he uploaded a video with the title of "new girlfriend "
He who fights bronies should see to itthat he himself does not become a brony. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, Pinkie Pie gazes Also

Toby has been known to troll on occasion and is fond of the prank. But why would anyone do something like that to troll him? It makes no sense. If there is a personal grievance there, it must be pretty serious.
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