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#26: Sep 13th 2011 at 11:49:31 AM

[up] Eight words: Avatar And The Airbending Fellowship Of Vampire Slayers. And five more: TV Tropes The TV Show.

edited 13th Sep '11 11:52:47 AM by Koveras

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#28: Sep 13th 2011 at 11:53:39 AM

Not anymore. I misspelled the "Series" and the Avatar link is borked, don't know whether by bug or on purpose. Here is a full URL:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AvatarAndTheAirbendingFellowshipOfVampireSlayers

^ Remove the "- " bit from the URL. Also should be accessible by the redirect AATAFOVS.

edited 13th Sep '11 11:56:24 AM by Koveras

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#29: Sep 13th 2011 at 11:56:37 AM

Odd, I found the page for Avatar And The Airbending Fellowship Of Vampire Slayers easily after a site search.

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#30: Sep 13th 2011 at 11:59:20 AM

Ah, it's too long for the forum parser to let it be one word.

I'm in favor of putting such things under "Just for Fun," myself.

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#31: Sep 13th 2011 at 11:59:46 AM

[up][up] It is linked normally from the wiki itself. Must be a forum bug/feature...

[up] Go ahead and put them on the TRS, too. I am for a move if all TV Tropes-original works get moved, so that future generations of tropers know that troping is Serious Business with rigid content policies. :)

edited 13th Sep '11 12:01:23 PM by Koveras

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#32: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:01:14 PM

Yeah, the forum parser is somewhat different from the wiki one. One of the differences is handling large words, including urls.

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#33: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:01:50 PM

Ack, ninja'd.

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#34: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:01:55 PM

@Stratadrake: We just had that discussion a few days ago on wiki talk (regarding roleplaying sessions), and seem to have reached about the same conclusion.

edited 13th Sep '11 12:02:43 PM by TripleElation

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#35: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:03:04 PM

+1 for moving it to Just-For-Fun and not caring about any idiot joke that's based on fooling people.

edited 13th Sep '11 12:03:11 PM by Jeysie

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#36: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:06:37 PM

No idea where you guys got the idea that stuff like Avatar And The Airbending Fellowship Of Vampire Slayers is not for the wiki. It is.

You guys calling stuff like that 'lies' is just weird. It's fiction. It happens to be generated by tropers. It is being being published here.

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#37: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:07:26 PM

Just in case my edited post was missed: I am OK with the move if all TV Tropes-original works get moved to the same namespace.

[up] Ah, finally a voice of reason.

EDIT: Btw, thank you for fixing the link, Eddie.

edited 13th Sep '11 12:10:39 PM by Koveras

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#38: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:11:31 PM

Fixed that length problem for AATAFOVS.

edited 13th Sep '11 12:11:40 PM by FastEddie

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#39: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:12:06 PM

The Avatar-thing actually exists somewhere for people to read. I suppose that counts as a reason to keep it in main (though the description could be a little more generous in letting people in on the joke). Nobody was accusing it of anything, as far as I can tell. TV Tropes The Webcomic has no such excuse.

edited 13th Sep '11 12:12:48 PM by TripleElation

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#40: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:22:05 PM

^ You are referring to episode recaps? How is this for an excuse, then: Recap.TV Tropes The Webcomic?

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#41: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:29:01 PM

That's not the actual work. That's a supposed "recap" which is actually a humorous run-down of TV Tropes history. That's a different thing from the work actually being there to be read, which is supposedly true for the Avatar-thing (I didn't look into it myself- taking Eddie's word for that).

edited 13th Sep '11 12:29:49 PM by TripleElation

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#42: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:34:09 PM

AATAFOVS is a series of 'recaps' of episodes of a series that does not exist. That is the style of storytelling.

It is no different from relating the events of something that did not really happen, in a novel.

edited 13th Sep '11 12:45:35 PM by FastEddie

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#43: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:39:58 PM

Yeah, looking at AATAFOVS, I'd really like it if TV Tropes The Webcomic were more like that.

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#44: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:40:37 PM

"TV Tropes The Webcomic" is not a "humorous rundown" of this site's history but a series of alphabetically sorted trope examples from a webcomic that reimagines some of this site's lingo and significant events but doesn't really exist.

[up] But TVTTW is not AATAFOVS...

edited 13th Sep '11 12:42:25 PM by Koveras

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#45: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:45:51 PM

Fictional novels usually introduce themselves as such, rather than pretend to describe something real (Dan Brown notwithstanding), as a courtesy to people who like to know whether what they're reading about is real or not. We ought to do the same.

[up] I was talking about the link you gave to "recaps" as proof that TV Tropes The Webcomic actually exists.

edited 13th Sep '11 12:47:09 PM by TripleElation

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#46: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:57:04 PM

First, I wasn't posting the recap of TVTTW to prove the webcomic exists. I was posting it to prove that a story exists. It is no more "proof" of TVTTW's existence than AATAFOVS's recaps are "proof" of its existence as a TV show and yet nobody dragged it to TRS for being a non-existing work on the mainspace yet.

Secondly, I am aware of several examples of novels not presenting themselves as such in any other way than being published, from the well-established Literary Agent Hypothesis, to the experimental works like House Of Leaves.

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#47: Sep 13th 2011 at 1:08:58 PM

^^^I was mostly referring to the fact that AATAFOVS has a much more in-depth recap.

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#48: Sep 13th 2011 at 1:22:58 PM

[up] Gotcha. I meant that AATAFOVS has a different concept, too, and I cannot deny that its format is more accessible to a new reader than TVTTW. It doesn't mean, however, that they should be treated differently.

edited 13th Sep '11 1:23:35 PM by Koveras

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#49: Sep 13th 2011 at 1:28:54 PM

Oh, I don't think they should be treated differently either.

I do kinda feel like there should be a "BTW, this page is the work" disclaimer somewhere, though. Maybe spoilertagged or something.

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#50: Sep 13th 2011 at 1:32:52 PM

It says "This fake webcomic provides examples of:". Seems like fair warning to me.

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