Removing Gushing from the Wiki

Transformers: War for Cybertron has a description that feels too promotional, I would like it if someone who knows the game could revise it.

Dragon Age: The Crown of Thorns and The Difference One Man Can Make both have very gushy pages that read like they were written by the author/their friends. I don't trust myself to work on these pages without going too far in the other direction, so could someone take a look at them?

Edited by Libraryseraph on Sep 16th 2019 at 11:39:54 AM

A very mild case, but Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney Case 5: Turnabout Substitution, a fan game, gets gushy about its Big Bad and says she's worse than any canon villain thus far (which may be true at the time but still has an air of 'we did it better than canon'.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Oct 7th 2019 at 7:14:26 AM

The entry for Heidi Thomas on SignatureStyle.Live Action TV feels too admiring. I don't know anything about her shows so I don't feel I can edit it.

A lot of Super Mario 64: Last Impact feels gushy to me, especially since reception as a whole seems mixed (particularly for the final boss, Rashay, who looks like a Palette Swap of a Haunter in his first form and a skeleton dragon in his second form)).

Edited by lalalei2001 on Oct 26th 2019 at 2:38:16 AM

With Strings Attached and its sequel The Keys Stand Alone have a lot of gushing in their description, and a fair bit in their tropes. However the most obvious problem are the quotes introducing them; they are far too long, about as long as the rest of the description. They need some editing by someone familiar with them.

Does this paragraph on Creator.CD Projekt RED seem a bit gushy to you guys?

"As the PC gaming industry at large moves to more and more intrusive DRM methods in hopes of preventing piracy, CD Projekt RED essentially said: "We don't condone piracy but all this DRM does is screw over our legitimate consumers and doesn't even prevent piracy so we're not going to use it at all", which has established them as champions of consumer rights in the eyes of many gamers."

Edited by PlasmaPower on Nov 2nd 2019 at 11:15:58 AM

This bit from Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019) YMMV page sound a bit like sociopath written it, complaining that they can't shoot a child in the end and sadism to the family bit is sorta alarming:

Ew that's creepy-gushy.

Should i delete it?

Yikes. Yeah, that's got to go.

Uh cut that. It sounds genuinely disgusting that their sad you can't kill children.

Edited by miraculous on Nov 15th 2019 at 10:30:10 AM

The description to Alice Is Dead seems gushy.

I was browsing Vile Villain, Saccharine Show and noticed the G4 MLP entries are pretty gushy.

"Discord seems harmless enough, right? Sure, Celestia is on edge, but he's a pleasant fellow and loves playing games. He's also a Reality Warper with a passion for psychological torture, corrupting Twilight's friends into a twisted mirror of their true selves and driving Twilight herself to the brink of the Despair Event Horizon. He celebrates his victory by turning Equestria into a World of Chaos where the ponies are reduced to playthings for his amusement. He's such a nasty piece of work that his Heel–Face Turn a season and a half later came as a genuine shock."

" "The Cutie Map" had Starlight Glimmer, a dictator who steals ponies' Cutie Marks and talents and then brainwashes them into believing that only by stamping out individuality and making sure all are "equal" can ponies be friends. Notably, her methods have been compared to those of real-life cults. Much like Discord above, she was such an evil and realistic villain that her Heel–Face Turn in her second appearance came as a genuine shock."

Discord was a Reality Warper, so I dunno how "realistic" that is. XD

Edited by lalalei2001 on Dec 7th 2019 at 6:50:22 AM

I checked over UsefulNotes.Sega Dreamcast and it seems like a pretty gushy page if I’m quite honest. What do you guys think? Some excerpts:

The Dreamcast would see a number of wonderful games, especially from Sega themselves, who seemed bound and determined to launch a new generation of IPs with games like Jet Set Radio, Skies of Arcadia, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi and more. It was also the console of choice for 2D fighting games, playing host to the most faithful versions of the Marvel vs. Capcom series ^note (Mango Sentinel and Mag-Fuckin-Neto wouldn't have been possible if Marvel vs. Capcom 2 modding wasn't possible on the Dreamcast) and SNK's various fighters; indeed, the long living MvC2 competitive scene was one of the Dreamcast's major life threads in the U.S. after its fall until the release of the game's Xbox Live Arcade/Play Station Network port and its sequel. It's also the system that made Soulcalibur a household name. Surprisingly after the Saturn's failure outside of Japan, the Dreamcast launch was a smash hit in North America, with more sales in the first months of its existence than any console before it.

Without a doubt, this was Sega's Dying Moment of Awesome as a first party, featuring new franchises in addition to two new main series Sonic games, such as Skies of Arcadia, Shenmue, and Jet Set Radio.

Yet the Dreamcast, if not commercially successful, became a legend, with its developer friendly SDK, fun arcade style games, four control ports for local multiplayer, innovative features (the GD-ROM could be played on a standard CD-drive; the VMU is still unique in its design, being both a memory card and handheld player), and a reliability far superior to other consoles. It is recalled fondly by hardcore gamers and still has a large cult following, and even had new games coming out for years. Today it is still recognized as a console with one of the best game quality/price ratios. As it happens, the Dreamcast is/was a de facto open platform — long before its death, modders had hacked it wide open to the point of being able to run versions of Linux and NetBSD, as well as people writing their own games. Its rather vast legacy doesn't just live on in gaming history- it's still felt today; notably its innovation in online gaming for consoles was improved and made the central focus of the console that could be best seen as its Spiritual Successor: the Xbox, as mentioned above^note Microsoft would go on to use the experience they gained from their partnership with Sega in its creation, Bill Gates was even in talks to consider cross-console compatibility between the two consoles but the negotiations fell through over the choice of online services, which has seen its third iteration to this day. As for online gaming in general on consoles? Well, that's now a standard there as much as it is for PCs for better or worse.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Dec 11th 2019 at 4:06:13 PM

Yeah, I agree.

The Real Life section of Big Friendly Dog comes off as very gushy. Gushy towards dogs, mind, but still...gushy.

The second paragraph of Casino Cups' description is kind of gushy, reading like a positive review.

A lot of the description for LittleKuriboh is gushy, especially the start.

EDIT: The tropes are too...

Edited by lalalei2001 on Feb 10th 2020 at 1:34:37 AM

Oof, yeah, that's not good. Unfortunately I don't know his stuff, so I can't personally fix it.

Awesome.Devil May Cry 5 has several paragraphs of extremely detailed description of characters' Super Mode designs in the meta section, and it seems excessive compared to the rest of the page. I'm not quite sure whether to trim it or link to official art or leave it alone.

Edited by SapphireBlue on Apr 9th 2020 at 4:39:52 AM

Is it just me or is this gushy? (From YMMV.Diary Of A Wimpy Kid)

• Animation Age Ghetto: Due to the books' cartoon art style, they haven't been taken seriously by many book critics despite their sociopolitical satire and many other jokes that could put it as one of the best comedy books of all time. In fact, some moral guardians have attacked the books despite the books being aimed at kids 8-12.

"Would Diary of a Wimpy Kid win a Mark Twain award?" me asks.

Definitely gushy. Personally, I don't even think the wimpy kid books are good comedy, but me making that claim on its pages would be too far in the other direction.

Yow. I liked the Devil Triggers too but I do not need the play by play. It just goes on and on and on and on...

I suggest trimming them to a one or two sentence summary for each, and then a link to official art or the wiki. Nero's could be cut right after the first sentence for example.

That seems excessive. Probably rewrite or cut.

Sounds good. I can do that.

Edited by SapphireBlue on May 1st 2020 at 7:11:17 AM