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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#1: Aug 15th 2011 at 3:00:46 AM

I was looking through Trope Codifier page and well, I can't be sure about some of the entries' validity. Is there any entry that is questionable the way you see it? I haven't watched a whole lot of anime so I can't really tell.

edited 15th Aug '11 3:01:24 AM by dRoy

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UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#2: Aug 15th 2011 at 3:21:29 AM

It seems pretty accurate to me.

For instance I'm confident in Ranma codifying Belligerent Sexual Tension and Sailor Moon codifying Magical Girl, but that also highlights my ignorance of anything before the 90s.

Well, assuming the 80s were too eighties for anything lasting to come out of, and the 70s being too obscure, the only thing left is the 60s which is probably where anime started. Basically, let's just say nothing existed before the 90s tongue.

None of the series on the page are ones I've never heard of in any case, and I'm decently confident - based on the assumption that some dedicated fan would cry "Aha! It's seems you've forgotten this little old series which I just happen to remember which I'm sure is a valid example etc etc..." if a series they've heard of could possibly fit the trope - that the examples would have been edited if they were terribly wrong (and I see nothing wrong with using human nature as my premise).

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#3: Aug 15th 2011 at 3:24:52 AM

They all seem to be correct, although I'm doubting whether Higurashi was listed properly there. Trope Codifier is "popularized", so it's not that hard to list them.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#4: Aug 15th 2011 at 3:40:09 AM

[up] That's actually me. I also added Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as the TC for This Is Drill and Azumanga Daioh for Schoolgirl Series in general.

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#5: Aug 15th 2011 at 5:52:31 AM

i havent seen much groundhog day loops to see to warrant a need to put higurashi as groundhog day loop codifier
Madoka is the only one I can think of right now.

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Fluid Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Aug 15th 2011 at 7:23:52 AM

If memory serves, Getter Robo was the first to do the drill-mecha thing.

harkko Since: Apr, 2010
#7: Aug 15th 2011 at 7:57:40 AM

You could go through work lists by Osamu Tezuka, Go Nagai, Riyoko Ikeda, Shotaro Ishinomori, Keiko Takemiya and some others.

Majokko Meg Chan might be the trope codifier for magical girls. Just like with giant robots, there are at least two different kind of magical girl genres, of which the aforementioned represents the more traditional one.

edited 15th Aug '11 8:01:34 AM by harkko

flygon250 Since: Dec, 2010
#8: Aug 15th 2011 at 2:20:32 PM

[up]I don't thing that Med-chan codified that kind of magical girl. I'm pretty sure Himitsu No Akko-chan was the codifier of that.

Anyway, I'm looking at the Essential Anime, and Evangelion is listed as the Trope Maker for Mind Screw. It isn't, it's the Trope Codifier. Going off the trope description (so much symbolism that nobody has any idea what's going on), Angels Egg would qualify as a Mind Screw and that was released in 1985, predating Evangelion by a decade. However, I have a problem, and that is that I haven't watched Be Invoked yet, and that could be an even earlier example of Mind Screw than Angels Egg, being released 3 years before it. Can anyone confirm that Be Invoked is a genuine Mind Screw for me? I want to watch the Ideon TV series before going onto Be Invoked, and that's going to take a while. I know, I could watch A Contact instead of the series, but I don't like watching recap movies without seeing the original.

edited 15th Aug '11 2:25:45 PM by flygon250

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#9: Aug 15th 2011 at 2:52:53 PM

I wouldn't count Ideon as a mindscrew, just very dark and violent. The very ending of Be Invoked is set in afterlife, though.

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#11: Aug 15th 2011 at 8:18:19 PM

Which series do you suppose is the TC for Four-Girl Ensemble? I think it's either Lucky Star or K On.

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#12: Aug 15th 2011 at 9:12:15 PM

That would be Ichigo Mashimaro. Remember that Trope Codifier isn't the best use of a trope and not even the most popular one, it's just the one that set the standard for how the trope is commonly used.

Of course a lot of times, the Trope Codifier is the best and/or the most popular example of the trope.

edited 15th Aug '11 9:19:56 PM by shark33

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#13: Aug 15th 2011 at 9:16:35 PM

Ones where the whole series revolves around those four? I would say Yeah ichigo would be it I think. Sailor Moon comes close at times but it becomes a Five-Man Band pretty fast.

edited 15th Aug '11 9:17:38 PM by Raso

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#14: Aug 15th 2011 at 9:17:37 PM

[up] Huh, I thought it was a relatively newer convention.

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#15: Aug 15th 2011 at 9:18:50 PM

Sailor Moon had 3 separate ones with Sailor Moon float in in and out of the main group. The outer senshi were pretty close to the steriotypical form of this.

edited 15th Aug '11 9:22:45 PM by Raso

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#17: Aug 15th 2011 at 9:23:56 PM

Well, some of those examples aren't primarily centered on four girls, are they?

Btw, where and how did you find that?

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shark33 Since: Nov, 2010
#18: Aug 15th 2011 at 9:25:41 PM

[up][up]That is awesome.

[up]Well, Ichigo Mashimaro, Lucky Star and Hidamari Sketch are though.

edited 15th Aug '11 9:26:35 PM by shark33

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#19: Aug 15th 2011 at 9:27:10 PM

Bittenfeld's moeness is undoubtable, but I think Yang fits the "helplessness" type better.

Excelion from The Fatherland Since: Sep, 2010
#20: Aug 15th 2011 at 9:30:23 PM

He keeps failing in battle, that is why he's helpless.

I'd still have preferred him as boke and Paul von Oberstein as tsukkomi.

Btw, where and how did you find that?
I have an image for everything.

edited 15th Aug '11 9:30:36 PM by Excelion

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#21: Aug 15th 2011 at 9:32:03 PM

[up][up][up] Azumanga Daioh was too till the Fifth Wheel showed up which is the way most of the shows go.

edited 15th Aug '11 9:32:25 PM by Raso

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#22: Aug 15th 2011 at 11:33:01 PM

[up]You are forgetting Sakaki, and Kagura was the Sixth Ranger.

flygon250 Since: Dec, 2010
#23: Aug 16th 2011 at 12:15:40 AM

@harkko:

Got that. Now my only problem is Night On The Galactic Railroad, which was released 6 months before Angels Egg and also qualifies as a Mind Screw (just about), but is an adaptation of a work outside of the medium (in this case, a novel by Kenji Miyazawa). does that count as the first anime Mind Screw, even though it isn't an original and the source material isn't a manga?

edited 16th Aug '11 12:16:58 AM by flygon250

ForlornDreamer from United States Since: Apr, 2011
#24: Aug 16th 2011 at 3:01:59 AM

It's probably fair to say later episodes of Dragon Ball Z are more or less the codifier for the shonen version of Combat Commentator, what with The Worf Effect character X standing around and engaging in spontaneous exposition to enlighten the audience and reaffirm to all of us just how powerful ally Y or opponent Z has become.

edited 16th Aug '11 3:03:24 AM by ForlornDreamer

harkko Since: Apr, 2010
#25: Aug 16th 2011 at 3:04:39 AM

I'm not sure is mindscrew really a codifiable trope.


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